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04-12-2009, 09:30 PM
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Registered User
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Deck Balluster Alternative?
Any reason why you can't install horizontal 1x6 or 1x4s instead of typical vertical ballusters?
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04-12-2009, 10:11 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McC
Any reason why you can't install horizontal 1x6 or 1x4s instead of typical vertical ballusters?
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Outside of aesthetics, the only rules are that they be able to handle 200 pounds of [sideways] force, and not have any spaces which would permit passage of a 4" diameter ball.
At least that's the rule in most of the US. Since you didn't mention where you are, I didn't bother looking up Lithuanian regulations.
Good idea to update your member profile with your location. 
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04-12-2009, 10:36 PM
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DRIFTWOOD
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against local codes here
Too dangerous! Little ones will use this as a ladder. Can't do in My area.
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04-13-2009, 01:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Driftwood
Too dangerous! Little ones will use this as a ladder. Can't do in My area.
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Same here, code violation
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04-13-2009, 08:56 AM
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You can as long as they are not deemed climbable. So no spaces.
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04-14-2009, 09:16 AM
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DRIFTWOOD
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No space 1 x 4s, That would be interesting
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris G
You can as long as they are not deemed climbable. So no spaces.
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No spaces? I call that a wall !
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04-14-2009, 09:43 AM
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Curmudgeon
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So, no chinese chippendale?
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04-14-2009, 02:41 PM
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PHB CONSTRUCTION LLC
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Balusters cannot produce a ladder effect I think was how our code is written.
I've always wondered though what about the decks I see that people run their 1 x 4's to make a diamond shape. At what degree of angle that is considered climbable?
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05-05-2009, 02:14 PM
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New Guy
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What about horizontal cable systems? Are they considered "climbable"?
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05-05-2009, 02:20 PM
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I've recently seen two very nicely built handicap ramps in front of houses. Both had about 4 horiz 1x6 on both sides. I would say there most likely was a permit for them. Any comments ?
Back to the original op - no can do here too, the ladder effect re: children.
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05-05-2009, 02:27 PM
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Custom Deck Builder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by We Fix Houses
Both had about 4 horiz 1x6 on both sides. Any comments ?
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More than likely, they weren't 30" above grade so no code would apply to those handrails. Even if they were taller than 30", there are jurisdictions that don't have "climbable" in their wording, merely that a 4" sphere can't pass through and must resist 200 lb. side force.
Mac
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05-05-2009, 06:16 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuiltByMAC
More than likely, they weren't 30" above grade so no code would apply to those handrails. Even if they were taller than 30", there are jurisdictions that don't have "climbable" in their wording, merely that a 4" sphere can't pass through and must resist 200 lb. side force.
Mac
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Don't know if it was code
or inspector, but it worked if
I put them on the outside of
the posts, and the handrail
to the inside.
Have done the that way since,
and no questions.
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05-05-2009, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by We Fix Houses
I've recently seen two very nicely built handicap ramps in front of houses. Both had about 4 horiz 1x6 on both sides. I would say there most likely was a permit for them. Any comments ?
Back to the original op - no can do here too, the ladder effect re: children.
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Dude, they're handicap ramps. Climbing....?
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