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Old 11-27-2008, 06:02 AM   #1
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Cutting Off Exterior Metal Door


I laid some tile in a kitchen and need to cut off the metal french door leading to the deck. Any tricks of doing this. Thanks!
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Old 11-27-2008, 07:18 AM   #2
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I laid some tile in a kitchen and need to cut off the metal french door leading to the deck. Any tricks of doing this. Thanks!
Might not be what you want to hear but... Based on what you offered above I would guess the floor is now to high for the door to swing properly.
If the new tile floor is to high for the door to open / close properly, cutting the door will allow the swing, but now ya have a problem with the margin between the door & threshold once closed...
Either switch to an outswing door or remove & raise the existing door, if its condition is worth the labor to do this.
Depending on what part of the country you are in, metal doors are best used as a walk out door in a garage if at all. That is my opinion cause here in the S/E metal doors never last long unless inland enough from the coast, even then their life is very limited.
It would be a great time for the H/O to upgrade to a fiberglass unit.

That is what I would do or offer for info, cause cutting a metal door, even if would do the trick, I personally would not want the liability of doing so.

Wish I had better Turkey Day info to offer you..

But remember, the above is only "my" opinion, others may have another solution for you.

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Grinder. with metal cutting wheel, take your time.
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so what happens to the vinyl sweep or threshold afterward? do you have pictures?
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so what happens to the vinyl sweep or threshold afterward? do you have pictures?
I usually cut a piece of wood and put in the bottom and screw a new sweep on the bottom of the door.
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cut grind, new sweep... really no need to go through all that work just to lift the door 1/4 inch
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I cut off the door w/ no problem. I do have a gap now between door and theshhold. I guess I will cut out threshold and raise it up some
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I cut off the door w/ no problem. I do have a gap now between door and theshhold. I guess I will cut out threshold and raise it up some

Or, custom fabricate new threshold and lay over existing..
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I cut off the door w/ no problem. I do have a gap now between door and theshhold. I guess I will cut out threshold and raise it up some
How about just adding a 1 3/4" door shoe...just a thought.
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Or, custom fabricate new threshold and lay over existing..
If only a reasonable margin, G is correct instead of cutting existing threshold and getting into to the problem of disturbing the moisture seal / pan flashing that should be below. You never did say how much had to be cut off door. Depending on how much build up you did as well as the height of bottom of door to start with. It could be only a 1/4" up to 1".

Let me explain a bit more. This don;t just pertain to doors, any construction project I reply to.
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Because of doing litigation work as well as upper end Construction.
So many doors I have changed out, have been because with time, H/Os got tired of never having a scatter rug in front of their door to wipe feet when entering, no joke, I can;t count the number of doors for this reason alone. In brand new homes as well. So many doors are installed just a 1/2 inch or less above finished floor making it impossible to have a decent scatter or throw rug in front of the door. Even if the customer loved their new floor at first, with time this seemed to always be an issue I would hear when asked what I could do to change this. Or if I changed a door for one H/O not long after, I received calls from several of their friends asking me to do the same for them as they thought they had to live with this problem. Listen to customers complaints of other workers and one can develop a better company. Customers are what make our Companies what they end up being. The simplest things can offer you a Customer base to keep you working thru the hardest of times, cause if there is a house, there is work as with healthcare.
Equally so, (especially here in the Southeast), I have done so many repair jobs pertaining to wood decay to the band joist under doors that have been tampered with to make work and or improper flashing pans.

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My gap at the bottom of the door is about a 1/4". If I put something on the bottom of the door it will drag, hence why I cut it off in the first place. How can I build up the existing threshold to compensate this gap.
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A couple of pictures would help alot.
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If you could post a picture of the existing threshold, i could tell you how to build it up. NOTE, if you are dealing with only a 1/4'', many doors come with ADJUSTABLE SILLS, if you see a piece of hardwood about 1'' wide, running the full width of the door, with large screws (about 5) . start turning these screws,(clockwise), the saddle will raise. G
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I hope its a non adjustable sill with an aluminum threshold for all you guys that told him to cut the slab
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My gap at the bottom of the door is about a 1/4". If I put something on the bottom of the door it will drag, hence why I cut it off in the first place...
Door sweep?
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I hope its a non adjustable sill with an aluminum threshold for all you guys that told him to cut the slab
Did you mean "you hope it's "not" a non adjustable sill with an aluminum threshold"??

That is the first thought that came to mind when asked about cutting the door & this would only cause further problems with the door in the closed position, now with a gap.

Then have to add an adjustable threshold or some other method to correct the problem. If just an aluminum threshold, screws thru the bottom would chance a hole in the flashing pan.
With you specializing in doors & windows, I'm sure you have seen the same problems as I mentioned when going to inspect or replace a door.

Depending on the area of the country in, improper flashings, installations, modifications, ect, keep business steady in the slowest of times.
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It sounds like a can of worms to me, could we see a pic of the cut off door? I never did cut a metal door myself.

If it were an interior door you could use a drop sweep.
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Did you mean "you hope it's "not" a non adjustable sill with an aluminum threshold"??

That is the first thought that came to mind when asked about cutting the door & this would only cause further problems with the door in the closed position, now with a gap.

Then have to add an adjustable threshold or some other method to correct the problem. If just an aluminum threshold, screws thru the bottom would chance a hole in the flashing pan.
With you specializing in doors & windows, I'm sure you have seen the same problems as I mentioned when going to inspect or replace a door.

Depending on the area of the country in, improper flashings, installations, modifications, ect, keep business steady in the slowest of times.
Nope, there were no errors in my post
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I hope its a non adjustable sill with an aluminum threshold for all you guys that told him to cut the slab

Who advised him to cut the door? His question was "how do i cut a metal door". not SHOULD i cut the door......

Additionally, if a fellow tradesman got himself in a pickle due to a mistake, why would you find that amusing ?

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