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Old 10-03-2008, 08:54 AM   #61
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When I first started out, I charged what I thought was a fair price. Being from a blue collar family I based that price on what I thought people could comfortably afford. I never made anything beyond wages, while I took all the risks. Ruby said it well. No need to add anything to that.

Do what you want, and you'll learn real quick what's a good price to charge.
The guys that lasted more then a year or two were the ones that woke up and smelled the coffee and realized they weren't going to win every job by dropping price and still stay in business.

I recall an ugly thread about 6 months ago where a fella was insinuated he was using C-List as a guideline to charge $3k for bath remodels.

Wonder how he's doing now?
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:24 PM   #62
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Let's assume you are talking about purchasing the cheapest materials for the client......
Then you can safely assume I'll be heading for the door. I've tried this and it doesn't do anyone any favors. You end up taking more time to screw around with cheap a$$ $h!t and plastic junk than it's worth. While you're trying to make this junk work your customer gets to see you at your worst.

I did an el cheapo Kitchen a few years ago and the H/O bought the cheapest cabinets they could get their hands on. Cheap cabinets = cheap install right? WRONG! It took much longer to get them installed because the damn things were so thin and flimsy. I know this is about bathrooms but the case I'm making is that cheap should cost more sometimes.
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Let's get something straight, remodeling is a LUXURY, not a necessity.

Home Repair is a necessity. Remodeling is something you do because you have the cash to make something the way you want it.

If you are a teacher or a fireman with two kids then you either:
A) remodel your own bathroom like millions of people do
B) save or build equity and hire a professional remodeler to do it.
C) save up a couple bucks and hire some jackleg hack to **** up your bathroom up for you.

Take your pick, it doesn't really matter to me.

PS- Only call me if you picked option B
Orson, you left out plan #1
for the above described customer.
Fix and repair til plan A or B is
in the budget.
These folks are my main customers,
and I'm already seeing this as the
trend for the coming year.
The days of easy home equity loans
seem to have drawn to a close for
these folks...at least in the near term.
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I am a Kitchen Bathroom Remodeler Depending on the size of the bathroom and the fixtures that the coustomer wants to use any were between 15k & 20K
Just finished one 22k new shower all fixtures floor wall and pluming and electrical.

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I recall an ugly thread about 6 months ago where a fella was insinuated he was using C-List as a guideline to charge $3k for bath remodels.
Hi Grumpy, I think you're referring to me... First off, that ugly thread is THIS THREAD, go back to page 1 to recap...

Now I NEVER said I use Craigslist as a guideline for pricing... I was told my $7K labor price for a 5'x7' was too low, so I posted about the $2995 C-list hacks just to show what my customers may compare my estimate too...

I'm not sure why you like to twist my words around all the time... In another thread you accused me of NEVER hiring plumbers either, (which is ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE) and turned a heart wrenching thread about a girl dying into a pissing match...

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I'm doing very well, thanks for asking.. How about you?

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Hi Grumpy, I think you're referring to me... First off, that ugly thread is THIS THREAD, go back to page 1 to recap...

Now I NEVER said I use Craigslist as a guideline for pricing... I was told my $7K labor price for a 5'x7' was too low, so I posted about the $2995 C-list hacks just to show what my customers may compare my estimate too...

I'm not sure why you like to twist my words around all the time... In another thread you accused me of NEVER hiring plumbers either, (which is ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE) and turned a heart wrenching thread about a girl dying into a pissing match...



I'm doing very well, thanks for asking.. How about you?

I'm doing very well.

I recall you mentioned you do $3k bath remodels in a week and make out fairly well as a one man show.
Some might draw conclusions at those rates regarding subs.

The bold pretty much makes a point, you really shouldn't be entertaining the idea that a customer of yours is looking at C-list to entertain a realistic comparison...unless you got the customer off C-list in the first place.

Thats like having a customer who wants a BMW saying they looked at a used chevy and got a better price (more or less, depending on what you offer of course)

The dying girl thread was regarding unlicensed handymen doing plumbing they shouldn't have touched in the first place.
A landlord cut corners to save money, a child died.

A then recent "meaningful debate" between yourself and a few plumbers came to mind in that thread.

Rather than irritate the regulars, lets just say I'm happy to hear your having a plumber do plumbing, and that you're thriving.

I also say let's BOTH forget C-list and move away from the illusion that that site amounts to any degree of serious measurement of any trades status.

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I recall you mentioned you do $3k bath remodels in a week and make out fairly well as a one man show.
Some might draw conclusions at those rates regarding subs.
See, there's the problem Grumpy.... I NEVER said anything about me doing a bathroom for $3K. Please stop mis-stating my previous posts...


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See, there's the problem Grumpy.... I NEVER said anything about me doing a bathroom for $3K. Please stop mis-stating my previous posts...




Done.
I don't care who's right or wrong, who said what or whodunnit and ran.
As long as you're not doing bath remods for $3k & skipping licensed work we're good.
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Not going with the cheapest no-name
fixtures and fittings (i.e. using Kohler,
Delta, Toto, etc) $10k is the cheapest
in this millenia.

Agreed. I personally dont see the point in switching anything out if you put the same mediocre chip crap in. Just because its new doesnt make it good.
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I think a lot of people have brought some good points, helpfull points, and some plain rude points here. Well rounded as usual!

People get what they pay for these days. I run two businesses.
1) Contracting, mostly bathrooms
2) I sell high quality glass mosaic tiles

Everyone always wants the best price. It's a given. But, they'll pay for quality. A lot of people come by my storage locker and look at my tiles and say they are off to go check out some guy on Craigs with mosaics for $3.00. Most of them come back and pay my higher price after figuring out that even though I am charging more they're getting what they want. Quality!

Build a nice website, get some good photos of your work in there, some testimonials, and then charge what you are worth, but don't gouge like plumbers (joke joke).

After all, if you bill yourself out and end up only making $20.00/hour. If you had have spent some time marketing yourself correctly you may have gotten $50.00. Work smart, and not hard.

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I know that prices are different depending on where you are in the country, but what do you charge for a normal bathroom. new bath/shower new flooring, paint, new vanity and sink, mirror, without any water damage, or unexpected problems.
Whats a house cost? The bathroom is one of the most expensive rooms in a house. Why do you think a remodel would be cheaper than to build a new one in a new house?

There are NO jobs without unexpected problems! It is the ability to solve the problems that bring peace of mind to the customer. I've never done one that didn't have some rot, framing, electric, plumbing, floor, or vent issue that needed to be solved.

If your budget was 7-10% of the price of your home new you would have a realistic budget that could accomplish most tasks in an average bath remodel for that house
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I don't agree with the last point completely because a bungalow in my neighborhood in Vancouver sells for 800,000. It's an expensive city to live in. House prices are mostly based around land value. $800,000 doesn't get you a mansion so if anyone here thinks they should be charging 7% which is $56,000.00 they're full of crap.
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I price it the same exact price as the car they are driving.
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I don't agree with the last point completely because a bungalow in my neighborhood in Vancouver sells for 800,000. It's an expensive city to live in. House prices are mostly based around land value. $800,000 doesn't get you a mansion so if anyone here thinks they should be charging 7% which is $56,000.00 they're full of crap.
If land value is that large of a contributor then you can factor it out, but before you do that I offer the following:

I guess that what I was trying to say is an $800,000 home is going to have different expectations in fit and finish from a $200,000 one. If I am working on the big buck houses I have only top dollar, best of the best subs. Anything else isn't wise in my opinion.

Just putting in new stuff isn't my goal; peace of mind, pride of ownership, how they stack up against the neighbors, resale value all are reasons to get a nice remodel instead of just new stuff. You spend a lot of your life in the bathroom (more as I get older) This should be an awesome place in the house.

To me that means opening up a wall for a view of a mountain or adding a skylight. Putting in a large jetted soaker tub (which will require more support under it and maybe a second hot water heater, electric, gas, plumbing, venting) heated tile floor etc. I am mostly a one man show that hires in the help when he needs it. My nitch is craftsmanship.

I had a lady pick out a thousand dollar faucet in a thousand dollar sink when a $90 faucet in a $120 sink would have worked in a 5 x 10 hall bath. She did this because she loved them. Every time she goes into that room she FEELS good. Shouldn't your home make you feel something. Would her life have been improved if we would have saved her $2500. What if I told her that in my professional opinion that was a waste of money. There are some low ball numbers being thrown around for total redo's that aren't that much different from from a sink that didn't even included the vanity.

I want to challenge myself to create special living spaces that improve the quality of life. I read a book called "the not so big house" by Sarah Susanka. It isn't about saving a buck, but taking your budget and spending it on creating quality of life instead of square footage. To me it sounds like it may be just the ticket for your situation.

I stand by my numbers. Have fun with this. I have thick skin and can take it.
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All of the above posts from this older thread is one more example that pricing talk and going rate questions are nearly impossible to answer, and just cause mayhem here.

Too many variables are present on any job to realistically help each other out. (At least on the open forum-PM's are a different animal)

I am always willing to at least steer a fellow poster (regular poster with more than 100 posts) in the right direction via a private message, and I have found through experience that the ones I have asked have been like-minded.
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Just a friendly reminder from the Colonel....

The OP has been gone for over a year.

And now back to the fun....
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I agree pricing is always gonna be a challenge, but with all that said a pat on the back to everyone who posts on this site! It takes a lot of balls to go self employed. It's not easy! A lot of learning for sure. Ecspecially from the pricing side of things. I don't even think the most experience contractor could explain this end of things 100%

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$50K and I'll give you a bathroom you'll love...done the right way!
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No, make that $75K

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