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Barn Remodel
I met with a couple on a referral today. I'm going to work on their bathroom, but the they showed me a barn that they have some big ideas for. They want to make it into an insulated shop, for the wife to make candles in, and the hubby to work on his car. It is approx 26x40, old school, 8-10" round posts set every 8' along the perimeter. Sounds like a great job, and they seem reasonable about the dough its going to take to do it. Radiant heat in a concrete pad, potential spray foam inso on the underside of the roof deck, sheetrock, exposed beams, and some killer customized features.
My question is on a project like this, without the standard footings, do you figure on pouring new footings? I think it's necessary. But I question whether or not a floating slab would be sufficient? I think with radiant you HAVE to at least get to the frost line, otherwise your wasting as much energy as you're trying to save. From a structural standpoint, it seems crazy to not do it with all the effort and time and money going into it? mark |
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Re: Barn Remodel
What about a "mono pour"? just a thought.
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Re: Barn Remodel
What's a mono pour?
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Re: Barn Remodel
footing and wall poured together
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Re: Barn Remodel
monolithic slab
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Re: Barn Remodel
Got it - need to brush up on the terms. Yeah - I was thinking that as well.
Any ideas on how to stabilize or jack that barn up to get the pour done? mark |
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Re: Barn Remodel
If it's a radiant heat slab,
you also want a thermal break between the outside wall/footing and the slab. I think you'll want underslab insulation as well. Probably costs more than most would like to try and heat the earth.
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Re: Barn Remodel
dont jack it, underpin
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Re: Barn Remodel
But with posts set every 8' the length of the building, how do you underpin that? I thought about running a beam of some sort the length of the building to tie the posts together, and then at each one support it (underpin I guess) from the interior to the exterior, spanning where the new footing/foundation will go. Prior to pour, cut the existing posts to the top of the foundation. Pour and then work the radiant/slab on the interior.
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