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willworkforbeer · 06-15-2009, 12:37 PM

So I'm doing some stuff now for a slumlord, I mean low income housing provider. He's not a bad guy, we all have our place. He asks me do I know of a sheetrock hanger, well my new neighbor said he was one, I played matchmaker, did not get involved

. Here are some results.

Mike(VA) · 06-15-2009, 12:46 PM

Ouch! Too bad you are the one who referred him.

willworkforbeer · 06-15-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(VA)

Ouch! Too bad you are the one who referred him.

No I was crystal clear that I in no way shape or form endorsed him, buyer beware. Another outlet, notice the clean, close cut lines, very uniform

BobsLandscaping · 06-15-2009, 12:52 PM

For the benefit of us poor ignorant landscapers whose brains are fried by the sun and herbicide fumes and know little to nothing of sheetrock: What the problem is?

SelfContract · 06-15-2009, 12:57 PM

[quote=BobsLandscaping;701079]For the benefit of us poor ignorant landscapers whose brains are fried by the sun and herbicide fumes and know little to nothing of sheetrock: What the problem is?[/quote]

1. Creating more time for finishers to patch up cracks, holes, sanding, and even out surfaces, or replace sheet, etc.

2. More time means more costly fix to HO too, etc.

willworkforbeer · 06-15-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsLandscaping

For the benefit of us poor ignorant landscapers whose brains are fried by the sun and herbicide fumes and know little to nothing of sheetrock: What the problem is?

Bob, get out of the sun now! and drink about a gallon of gatorade.

BobsLandscaping · 06-15-2009, 01:01 PM

I've never hung sheetrock in my life, so I honestly wouldn't know how it's supposed to look. Doesn't a coat of "bondo" go over the sheetrock to make it smooth? Or textured as the case may be. Could you possible post a picture of properly hung sheetrock for comparison purposes?

neolitic · 06-15-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsLandscaping

I've never hung sheetrock in my life, so I honestly wouldn't know how it's supposed to look. Doesn't a coat of "bondo" go over the sheetrock to make it smooth? Or textured as the case may be. Could you possible post a picture of properly hung sheetrock for comparison purposes?

We try not to Bondo our drywall
east of the Mississippi!

http://www.3m.com/US/auto_marine_aero/Bondo/

CScalf · 06-15-2009, 01:38 PM

I can see that being a problem if he isn't finishing it, but if he is finishing it himself, he will soon learn to either let someone who knows what they are doing handle it, or do it right the first time, maybe he actually thinks it is supposed to be like that? Maybe he wasn't ever properly trained. I know a guy that thinks the walls are to be hung first, and that you don't stagger the seams on the ceiling because it is too much moving around instead of just one straight line

willworkforbeer · 06-15-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CScalf

I can see that being a problem if he isn't finishing it, but if he is finishing it himself, he will soon learn to either let someone who knows what they are doing handle it, or do it right the first time

This explains why he told me he'd hang it but wouldnt finish it because he hated it. He's my neighbor so I said nothing. Will not try to get him anymore work though.

Mike Finley · 06-15-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsLandscaping

I've never hung sheetrock in my life, so I honestly wouldn't know how it's supposed to look. Doesn't a coat of "bondo" go over the sheetrock to make it smooth? Or textured as the case may be. Could you possible post a picture of properly hung sheetrock for comparison purposes?

This is the proper way, see how all the seems are nice and tight.

willworkforbeer · 06-15-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Finley

This is the proper way, see how all the seems are nice and tight.

They got sheetrock rationing over there in Colorado?

Next up, mud & tape shortages.

neolitic · 06-15-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Finley

This is the proper way, see how all the seems are nice and tight.

I like the stud location system
under the window.

Mike Finley · 06-15-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neolitic

I like the stud location system
under the window.

Actually I was trying to locate the header.

thom · 06-15-2009, 02:38 PM

It looks to me like the problems started before the hanger started. There shouldn't be devices in the electric boxes and the window frame disallows continuous drywall installation.

Certainly the hanging was sloppy and there are not nearly enough fasteners, but the problems on that job predate the hanging of sheetrock. From the looks of your pictures, and what is actually visible, I'd bet that the sheetrock is hiding more problems than were created by the sloppy hanging job.

The first electrical box (steel, switch) appears to be improperly installed and improperly grounded.
The second electrical box (plastic, switch) appears to be poorly installed (crooked) and the switch is not grounded.
The third electrical box (plastic, receptacle) has the romex improperly run into the box.

So, a non-electrician butchered the electrical work causing very real hazards yet you complain about the sloppy cuts on the drywall.

naptown CR · 06-15-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Finley

This is the proper way, see how all the seems are nice and tight.

Did the drywall come from the broken sheet pile at the dumpster? I am glad I am not finishng i would have to charge you triple

**Cole** · 06-15-2009, 03:16 PM

LMFAO!

ampman · 06-15-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thom

It looks to me like the problems started before the hanger started. There shouldn't be devices in the electric boxes and the window frame disallows continuous drywall installation.

Certainly the hanging was sloppy and there are not nearly enough fasteners, but the problems on that job predate the hanging of sheetrock. From the looks of your pictures, and what is actually visible, I'd bet that the sheetrock is hiding more problems that were created by the sloppy hanging job.

The first electrical box (steel, switch) appears to be improperly installed and improperly grounded.
The second electrical box (plastic, switch) appears to be poorly installed (crooked) and the switch is not grounded.
The third electrical box (plastic, receptacle) has the romex improperly run into the box.

So, a non-electrician butchered the electrical work causing very real hazards yet you complain about the sloppy cuts on the drywall.

yes i agree devices go in after drywall is finished ,electrical is hacked too

Mike Finley · 06-15-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by naptown CR

Did the drywall come from the broken sheet pile at the dumpster?

No those were full sheets, but I always cut them up small like that so they are easier to carry.

willworkforbeer · 06-15-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thom

The first electrical box (steel, switch) appears to be improperly installed and improperly grounded.
The second electrical box (plastic, switch) appears to be poorly installed (crooked) and the switch is not grounded.
The third electrical box (plastic, receptacle) has the romex improperly run into the box.

So, a non-electrician butchered the electrical work causing very real hazards yet you complain about the sloppy cuts on the drywall.

The system was butchered, missing grounds, hots on the wrong side etc.

A crooked plastic box, come on man.

Everthing is in order as best that can be with 3 generations of wiring. Everything is grounded. Its solid.

He could have cut close for the switches and outlets.