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08-14-2009, 06:53 PM
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adding a new bathroom
The owner of the house, wants me to add one more bathroom in the attic.
7x7 bathroom with stand in shower, toillet and sink.
Its open space, easy to get water lines and waste pipe to it.
I just need some help getting the estimate right....labor only.
Thanks
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08-14-2009, 06:56 PM
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08-14-2009, 06:57 PM
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Framer
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labor only?
No permits?
No license?
No thank you!
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08-14-2009, 07:58 PM
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Pompass Ass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by remake
The owner of the house, wants me to add one more bathroom in the attic.
7x7 bathroom with stand in shower, toillet and sink.
Its open space, easy to get water lines and waste pipe to it.
I just need some help getting the estimate right....labor only.
Thanks
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tree fiddy
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08-14-2009, 08:09 PM
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Plausible Deniability
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08-14-2009, 08:44 PM
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Fentoozler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by remake
The owner of the house, wants me to add one more bathroom in the attic.
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One more !!!!
How many bathrooms do they have in that attic anyway?
Have you mentioned to the owner of the house that a turd traveling from the attic to the basement will travel at appx. twice the speed as a turd launched from the 1st flr.?
Good stuff.
You should tell him 
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08-14-2009, 08:52 PM
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Plausible Deniability
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtic
One more !!!!
How many bathrooms do they have in that attic anyway?
Have you mentioned to the owner of the house that a turd traveling from the attic to the basement will travel at appx. twice the speed as a turd launched from the 1st flr.?
Good stuff.
You should tell him |
That's one fast turd.....
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08-14-2009, 08:54 PM
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Al Smith
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Why would anyone have a bathroom in their attic, let alone wanting another one?
You don't need an attic bathroom. you need a balcony and a 5 gallon bucket
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/206298/
Last edited by A W Smith; 08-14-2009 at 09:01 PM.
Reason: grammer
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08-14-2009, 08:58 PM
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Just cut a hole in the floor over the downstairs toilet... 
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08-14-2009, 09:29 PM
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What sort of shower? What sort of Basin? What sort of Toilet?
That job could take anything from 3 days to 13 days depending on what stuff you are thinking of using and how complicated the bathroom build is going to be.
I take it you are going to be pipeing into the vent stack for the toilet soil and if so you need to make sure it's at least 3" as most vents reduce down to 2" below the attic. Also you need to make sure you have enough head of water to power a shower and fosets as thats pretty high up. If it's a pumped system then you will need a negative head pump also. Unless they already have a pumped system for water in the attic?
There's to many unknowns when it comes to plumbing and it may seem simple but could be a complette nightmare.
Last edited by BCConstruction; 08-14-2009 at 09:41 PM.
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08-14-2009, 09:31 PM
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Never lost a battle.
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$3681.49 that should do it.
Andy.
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08-14-2009, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScipioAfricanus
$3681.49 that should do it.
Andy.
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Ok that's weird. Your are 1.49 off the price i just quoted for a new bathroom install. Your good 
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08-14-2009, 10:49 PM
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Super Genius
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My wife grew up on the third floor. In Sicily. They had a chamber pot that was emptied into a hole in the floor as needed.
45 minutes to saw a 4" diameter hole x $15/hour = tree-fiddy.
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08-14-2009, 10:50 PM
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Super Genius
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Crap, I forgot about the shower and sink. Is it too late for a change order?
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08-15-2009, 06:54 AM
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Pompass Ass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtic
One more !!!!
How many bathrooms do they have in that attic anyway?
Have you mentioned to the owner of the house that a turd traveling from the attic to the basement will travel at appx. twice the speed as a turd launched from the 1st flr.?
Good stuff.
You should tell him |
That reminds me of a note someone wrote in one of the port o johns on my job.
"All Turds over 6" long must be hand lowered per OSHA Regulation CFR 29, 1926 6.54a"
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08-15-2009, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCConstruction
What sort of shower? What sort of Basin? What sort of Toilet?
That job could take anything from 3 days to 13 days depending on what stuff you are thinking of using and how complicated the bathroom build is going to be.
I take it you are going to be pipeing into the vent stack for the toilet soil and if so you need to make sure it's at least 3" as most vents reduce down to 2" below the attic. Also you need to make sure you have enough head of water to power a shower and fosets as thats pretty high up. If it's a pumped system then you will need a negative head pump also. Unless they already have a pumped system for water in the attic?
There's to many unknowns when it comes to plumbing and it may seem simple but could be a complette nightmare.
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The attic height is 7' its open space, I would built it right over the downstairs one. It wont be so dificult to built one, I could complette the job in 14 days..
I just want the right quote for the guy..
thanks
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08-15-2009, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by remake
The attic height is 7' its open space, I would built it right over the downstairs one. It wont be so dificult to built one, I could complette the job in 14 days..
I just want the right quote for the guy..
thanks
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14 days covers me for a 14x8ft batroom with removeing all tile on walls and floor all fixtures out. Re-pipe bath and shower, Leave basin wastes and supplys, make walls good and fit shower tray and bath, retile half wall and all floor and fit cabneits. That should more than cover you.
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08-15-2009, 10:26 AM
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Al Smith
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Quote:
Originally Posted by remake
The attic height is 7' its open space, I would built it right over the downstairs one. It wont be so dificult to built one, I could complette the job in 14 days..
I just want the right quote for the guy..
thanks
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You already know how long it would take? but you just "want the right quote" for the guy? Sounds to me like you are the client just checking against your contractors bid on the web.
Can a moderator close this thread now?
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08-15-2009, 10:30 AM
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demo master
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14 days would get me thorugh demo, rough plumbing, electrical, hvac ducting, and framing inspection, ready for drywall and cbu inspection whole job like that with permits in 14 days? oh wait.. 
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08-15-2009, 10:30 AM
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Fentoozler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCConstruction
14 days covers me for a 14x8ft batroom with removeing all tile on walls and floor all fixtures out. Re-pipe bath and shower, Leave basin wastes and supplys, make walls good and fit shower tray and bath, retile half wall and all floor and fit cabneits. That should more than cover you.
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I'll be done with mine in 10 days...same situation....only I am not:
- a framer
- a plumber
- a sheetrocker
- a tile guy
- a designer
Note to BCC: Hopefully you do not believe this ~ just as I do not believe you and the OP are "equals".
Do I hear 8 days?
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