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Old 02-25-2018, 03:27 PM   #21
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A friend of mine has steel siding on his house. Can't tell if it's original or not (never really poked around to verify). It's definitely been there a while though. House is from the 40s. Siding looks good except the finish is chalky. That's a problem I'll bet they've solved by now.

I was invited to bid on residing some Missile Silos throughout our region using steel siding. That's the only time I ever came across it though.
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:50 PM   #22
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Fanfold is normally used on top of the old clapboard, serves a number of purposes. Air seals older houses and provides a flat surface for the new siding. While I know it is not for every part of the country, a good steel job is hard to beat. Can last a long time ,40 -50 yrs or more. In 20 yrs of residing house have only done 3 vinyl jobs. Would be hard pressed to use it.
I'd say a good 90% of the houses have vinyl on them at least somewhere. They might have a brick front, but the remainder is vinyl. I wouldn't put it on anything that I own. But steel siding here in NJ is virtually non existent.
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If it was mine, I'd fill and patch the existing. Much cheaper and you can do it as you go. I'd use an epoxy filler for the major damage, and something like Crackshot for the minor stuff. With 10,000 in the budget, you can invest in the right tools and equipment. Don't worry about perfection, just get it solid and clean. Character gets a bad name, but I prefer it. Character is my houses middle name.
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I'd say a good 90% of the houses have vinyl on them at least somewhere. They might have a brick front, but the remainder is vinyl. I wouldn't put it on anything that I own. But steel siding here in NJ is virtually non existent.
I would have to say less then 10% have vinyl here. Most new homes have Hardi or Smart-side. Where a lot of older homes get the steel siding.
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Old house, in as good a shape as you are saying ; keep the wood and repair, prep and paint IMO.
Vinyl will look like crap on an old house unless you go highest grade vinyl, beaded soffit and use the pricey accessories and even then its still gonna look like vinyl. Thats gonna put you in the highest range of vinyl pricing too.
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I would say what are your goals? I would paint it based on the following factors:
I intend to own the home for many years.
It would be appropriate for the neighborhood and the age of the house.
I want it to look historically correct.
I want old carpentry details to be exposed and appreciated.
The wood siding is sound and minimal, if any, siding replacement is required.
I am willing to do all the necessary prep and repair.
I am willing to use quality products to get the maximum return on my investment.
I have the time and the budget.

As a painter i question vinyl siding on 100 year old houses, it rarely looks appropriate but sometimes there is little other choice, it is what it is.
I think a quality painted old house with details painted correctly, beautiful carpentry details highlighted etc in appropriate color schemes just cant be beat.

One final comment, some tend to view vinyl siding as the desired finish for all wood sided homes, from a maximum value point of view. Not sure i agree with that thought. Many people would turn their noses up at a beautiful painted house because it does not have vinyl, they simply don't appreciate what they are looking at.

Vinyl is not exactly maintenance free as most believe.
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vinyl siding takes a level of expertise most don't have,do whats familiar to you
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vinyl siding takes a level of expertise most don't have,do whats familiar to you
So does quality painting.
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Ouch!
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Personally, i think its harder to find a decent painter than a decent siding guy. Around my parts anyway.
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Avoid cheap vinyl like the plague. There is some pretty nice stuff out there. Go to an exterior supplier and see what is available
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So does quality painting.
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Personally, i think its harder to find a decent painter than a decent siding guy. Around my parts anyway.
what do you mean by ''decent''?
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Avoid cheap vinyl like the plague. There is some pretty nice stuff out there. Go to an exterior supplier and see what is available
''better product'' don't equate better install which is whats lacking on most jobs you see
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Takes a lot of skill at times to make a sow's ear into a silk purse. Some people have no clue how to.
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each case is different regarding what the best approach is but just because it's old vinyl can still be a good option
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each case is different regarding what the best approach is but just because it's old vinyl can still be a good option
Just my opinion, that house would of looked nice with a double panel. Still looks really nice though.
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the metal version
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the metal version
Is this one you did Tom? Metal you say?
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Just meant theres more than a few guys in my area that i wouldnt hesitate to sub a siding job out too. Maybe not the really detailed stuff, but metal will be flat and panels will be straight. That said i rarely sub siding of any kind out tho.
Seems like painters around me either show up drunk or are so busy cause they are good quaility painting contractors that they pick what jobs they want. No in between.
And its not just on low end projects, last year did a huge slate roof boral job with lots of detail, crowns, flat and raised panels......total job for this house reno/huge addition was in the 3 mil range All said and done. Painters sucked!!!! Whiz rollers flying everywhere and could see roller skips on all the fascias. Would have loved to have even a "decent" painter follow me up on that job.

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