Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-29-2007, 01:55 AM   #1
Pro
 
wackman's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder, Additions, large remodels...Lately also small remodels.......
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 889

Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


It's been recommended to me by Nathan to have one of the sponsors on this site to build my first web site.

I'd like to know what kind of questions I should ask to evaluate these guys (and a few guys I personally know who build web sites as well).

Since I know nothing about this stuff I have no idea if a guy knows what he's doing or not and I could use some help determining the right guy for me.

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

Wack

wackman is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 03-29-2007, 03:20 AM   #2
Pro
 
Ed the Roofer's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 7,135

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Wack,

I'm in the same boat as you, but I don't want to over analyze things that I don't know enough about.

For some starter information, click on the www.Visionwebservices.com icon to the right of this screen and click on the link to request the construction website starter kit. Fill out the information request form and you will get a very informative packet, regardless of who you wind up choosing.

I think that www.footbridgemedia.com has some information on their site that can be helpful to answer your questions too.

For additional more involved information, go to www.webworkshop.net

Thats enough for now.

I need to do something and be quick about it myself.

Keep me posted if you find out anything revealing please.

Ed
Ed the Roofer is offline  
Old 03-29-2007, 05:27 PM   #3
Pro
 
Diesel65's Avatar
 
Trade: HVAC Contractor/ General Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: West Palm Florida
Posts: 145

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


www.volwebdesigns.com,

Martyn is young but a true proffesional, I do not know if he has mine on the portfolio page yet or not.

Highly recommended

Last edited by Diesel65; 03-29-2007 at 05:37 PM. Reason: Spelling
Diesel65 is offline  
Old 03-29-2007, 09:31 PM   #4
It's all about the Avatar
 
woodmagman's Avatar
 
Trade: I have no face!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,798

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Not so much about asking questions as it is telling the professionals what your require.... if they can fill in the blanks of all your requirements and come recommended by someone you trust then put the shoes on and wear them....
woodmagman is offline  
Old 03-29-2007, 10:27 PM   #5
Mod / ArchiBuilder
 
Cole's Avatar
 
Trade: Design/Build Outdoor Living
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: ArkLaTexOma
Posts: 6,611

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel65 View Post
www.volwebdesigns.com,

Martyn is young but a true proffesional, I do not know if he has mine on the portfolio page yet or not.

Highly recommended
do you have a link to your website?
Cole is online now  
Old 03-30-2007, 12:31 AM   #6
Pro
 
RobertCDF's Avatar
 
Trade: Custom deck builder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Posts: 4,325

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


I would find out some of the pages they have made roughly 18-24 months ago... Look the pages over and see if you like them... THEN Google test them. If its a painter in Miami google miami painters and see what number that webpage comes up. That will tell you if they are any good at SEO.
RobertCDF is online now  
Old 03-30-2007, 09:31 AM   #7
Recovering IT Guy
 
Second Look's Avatar
 
Trade: Handyman, Home Improvement, Kitchen & Bath Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Warwick, Rhode Island
Posts: 262

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertCDF View Post
I would find out some of the pages they have made roughly 18-24 months ago... Look the pages over and see if you like them... THEN Google test them. If its a painter in Miami google miami painters and see what number that webpage comes up. That will tell you if they are any good at SEO.
I respectfully disagree with this advice. Seek out a designer based on their design work, and find a good SEO provider to do that work. If they turn out to be one and the same, so be it, but it's not a necessity.

Each task is deep enough to be a specialty, and they are quite different from each other. Limiting oneself to people/companies which only do BOTH well needlessly cuts a lot of good talent from consideration.
__________________
Second Look home improvement www.SecondLookHome.com
Handyman and Home Repair Specialist in Rhode Island
RI Licensed Lead Safe Remodeler/Renovator, RI Registered & Insured Contractor
Second Look is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 09:33 AM   #8
It's all about the Avatar
 
woodmagman's Avatar
 
Trade: I have no face!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,798

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertCDF View Post
I would find out some of the pages they have made roughly 18-24 months ago... Look the pages over and see if you like them... THEN Google test them. If its a painter in Miami google miami painters and see what number that webpage comes up. That will tell you if they are any good at SEO.
The theory behind that is great, but if you can not afford to have someone ranking your pages on a continues bases then just because the page is ranking high today does not mean the competition will not spend some money and rank higher tomorrow. The design is your main concern as a web purchaser. Unless your pockets are deep ranking wars will put smaller companies at the bottom of the list.
woodmagman is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 09:37 AM   #9
Recovering IT Guy
 
Second Look's Avatar
 
Trade: Handyman, Home Improvement, Kitchen & Bath Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Warwick, Rhode Island
Posts: 262

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Here's what I would ask:

Do I get ALL the files upon payment? Otherwise you could be locked into an expensive hosting agreement and your site would go down if the company went bankrupt or was served with a court order to temporarily shut down.

What level of cross browser compatibility is guaranteed? Will it look fine to an AOL user? What about a laptop user with a WIDE screen? Do you detect the visitors resolution so the wide screen user gets more than a tiny strip down the middle with big white gutters on either side?

Do you provide content management tools so a non-techie can easily update the text of the site?

Make absolutely SURE they are skilled enough that they are not using Front Page. Front Page generated material can be a bear to edit/modify.
__________________
Second Look home improvement www.SecondLookHome.com
Handyman and Home Repair Specialist in Rhode Island
RI Licensed Lead Safe Remodeler/Renovator, RI Registered & Insured Contractor
Second Look is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 09:55 AM   #10
It's all about the Avatar
 
woodmagman's Avatar
 
Trade: I have no face!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,798

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Make absolutely SURE they are skilled enough that they are not using Front Page. Front Page generated material can be a bear to edit/modify.[/quote]
Our staff of no tech have no trouble with Frontpage. What would you recommend for those that would like to use other.
woodmagman is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 10:02 AM   #11
It's all about the Avatar
 
woodmagman's Avatar
 
Trade: I have no face!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,798

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Frontpage seems to have operated very well for everyone I do business with, other then those that do webdesign. A non tech person can generate a web page in about 8 minutes following the tutorials.
Edit it anytime and completely change it when you want. Hire a graphics designer to make a logo would be a recommendation
woodmagman is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 01:21 PM   #12
Pro
 
George Z's Avatar
 
Trade: Painting Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,836

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by woodmagman View Post
The theory behind that is great, but if you can not afford to have someone ranking your pages on a continues bases then just because the page is ranking high today does not mean the competition will not spend some money and rank higher tomorrow. The design is your main concern as a web purchaser. Unless your pockets are deep ranking wars will put smaller companies at the bottom of the list.
Quote:
Unless your pockets are deep ranking wars will put smaller companies at the bottom of the list
We stay consistently high in a tough market,
just need to stay a step ahead.
Design is great only if someone will see it.
George Z is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 01:25 PM   #13
Pro
 
George Z's Avatar
 
Trade: Painting Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,836

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Second Look View Post
I respectfully disagree with this advice. Seek out a designer based on their design work, and find a good SEO provider to do that work. If they turn out to be one and the same, so be it, but it's not a necessity.

Each task is deep enough to be a specialty, and they are quite different from each other. Limiting oneself to people/companies which only do BOTH well needlessly cuts a lot of good talent from consideration.
Great points.
Add to that the marketing part.
Good SEO is not necessarily good marketing.
Good SEO will get you the visits, will it get you conversions?
That's why the all in one solutions are usually just average at best.
George Z is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 04:03 PM   #14
Pro
 
wackman's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder, Additions, large remodels...Lately also small remodels.......
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 889

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


This is really good stuff. I'm learning a lot. I don't even know what SEO is let alone all the rest of the stuff.

I'm mostly concerned about the types of questions that second look has mentioned. I don't want to set something up that has to be flushed if one thing goes wrong.

I definitely would like to be able to go into it myself and fix some small details or reword things, update company info etc..

Please keep the pointers coming.
wackman is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 04:07 PM   #15
Pro
 
mickeyco's Avatar
 
Trade: Squirrel Handler
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,432

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Make sure you aren't buying AA Paint's website, by that I mean material ripped from others, it sucks to pay for something and then have to take it down.
mickeyco is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 08:54 PM   #16
Pro
 
wackman's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder, Additions, large remodels...Lately also small remodels.......
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 889

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeyco View Post
Make sure you aren't buying AA Paint's website, by that I mean material ripped from others, it sucks to pay for something and then have to take it down.
What do you mean?
wackman is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 09:20 PM   #17
Pro
 
wackman's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder, Additions, large remodels...Lately also small remodels.......
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 889

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Here's the delima I'm having. I know two people who do web design and now I've been speaking with Dub from Vision, who seems very professional and knowledgable.

One guy I know does my graphics stuff, he's good, he's been doing it awhile and he's EXPENSIVE.

The other one is new to this and I don't know how good he is but he is way cheap.

Then there is vision who I don't know personally, live far away but I'm sure are very good at what I need and they're in the middle on price.

I need some opinions on some of the sites these guys have built.

Check these out and tell me what you think:

Expensive guys own site is www.creativevibe.com and a site he built for my cousin for about $20k is www.ryanolsenhomes.com He says he can do some real basic thing for about 2k.

Inexpensive guys own site is www.nlemedia.com and he says he'll build me a site that has tons flash animation (if I want that), update it within hours of me calling as much as I want unlimited, build me as many pages as I want, picture and video galleries etc.. for like $500. plus $50 per new page after the initial build and he'll do what ever upgrades and changes I want every month for $25mnth.

Then there is the vision stuff that looks good and clear, easily navigated and geared towards contractors already. For a basic 5 page, 3 email entered into the top 20 search engines, only 4 hours of updates and changes a year and this includes hosting they cost $1300.

If I don't use the guys I know personally I want to be able to tell them why.
wackman is offline  
Old 03-30-2007, 10:59 PM   #18
Custom Fence Builder
 
Susan Betz's Avatar
 
Trade: Fence Manufacture and Installation
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 906

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by wackman View Post

Expensive guys own site is www.creativevibe.com and a site he built for my cousin for about $20k is www.ryanolsenhomes.com He says he can do some real basic thing for about 2k.
Any site that has flash on the front page (which both these sites have) will NEVER place well in the search engines. This guy know design - but knows nothing about how the algorithms work.

Quote:
Inexpensive guys own site is www.nlemedia.com and he says he'll build me a site that has tons flash animation (if I want that), update it within hours of me calling as much as I want unlimited, build me as many pages as I want, picture and video galleries etc.. for like $500. plus $50 per new page after the initial build and he'll do what ever upgrades and changes I want every month for $25mnth.
Am I the only one who sees blurry text on the front page? Unlike the first designer, this guy's site is ugly.

Quote:

If I don't use the guys I know personally I want to be able to tell them why.
$20K for a site sounds pretty steep to me. $500 is too much for the second. If you're willing to do most of the work yourself, $1000-$2000 is about right.
__________________
Fences of Distinction, Ocala, FL
http://www.fencesofdistinction.com
Susan Betz is offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 03:29 AM   #19
Pro
 
wackman's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder, Additions, large remodels...Lately also small remodels.......
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 889

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Susan Betz View Post
Any site that has flash on the front page (which both these sites have) will NEVER place well in the search engines.
Why is it that flash on the front page will screw up search engines?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Susan Betz View Post
Am I the only one who sees blurry text on the front page? Unlike the first designer, this guy's site is ugly.
I also see fuzzy text and think his site is ugly. Part of me says if I don't like what he does then I can scrap it and only be out $500. Plus what he thinks looks good isn't necessarily what I need to have. I can say this is what I want and as long as he can make that happen I will probably be happy.

I don't know, I'll probably just go with the middle road that is neither fancy and expensive or cheap but at least they know what they're doing for a reasonable price.
wackman is offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 06:48 AM   #20
Custom Fence Builder
 
Susan Betz's Avatar
 
Trade: Fence Manufacture and Installation
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 906

Re: Questions I Should Ask To Pick A Web Master?


Quote:
Originally Posted by wackman View Post
Why is it that flash on the front page will screw up search engines?
The search engine robots only "see" text. A flash animation is all pictures. As the only door into your website, the robot stops looking. That's bad.

Flash can be used well. Embedded inside the site, as you would a picture, a flash animation can be a focal point of the site.


Quote:
I also see fuzzy text and think his site is ugly. Part of me says if I don't like what he does then I can scrap it and only be out $500. Plus what he thinks looks good isn't necessarily what I need to have. I can say this is what I want and as long as he can make that happen I will probably be happy.

I don't know, I'll probably just go with the middle road that is neither fancy and expensive or cheap but at least they know what they're doing for a reasonable price.
Middle of the road works the best in business. Eye candy is great for grabbing attention, but it's the text that makes the site work for you.
__________________
Fences of Distinction, Ocala, FL
http://www.fencesofdistinction.com
Susan Betz is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Add your questions for a basic knowledge test for new hires! Mike Finley Carpentry 85 03-02-2009 09:04 PM
5'x5' Walk-In Master Closet too small? kdub1777 General Discussion 7 06-25-2007 10:37 PM
I'm new and i have questions... Jadzu General Discussion 2 08-25-2006 07:03 AM
Master Bedroom Placement ridgeline_dev Remodeling 4 05-09-2006 08:44 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?