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Old 09-12-2017, 02:11 PM   #181
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The evolution of understanding.

I encourage all DIY'ers and others looking for a bargain surveillance system to first buy the cheapest piece of crap that money can buy - at Costco, Big Box Electronic store, off the Internet, wherever.

After 6 mos or a year, you will have found out why that stuff was so cheap. Too many boring and sundry reasons to list, but you will find out. Now it's time to buy another system, but a little pricier. Perhaps the premium system from the big box store or the internet.

After another several months or a year (or so), you'll find out why that system was priced low too. So now it's time to buy a system from an alarm company. Especially one that buys enough mediocre crap from some Chinese manufacturer, where they can put their own private brand name on them. This gives it more credibility.

After a couple more years of dealing with alarm company stuff (especially large national or regional alarm companies), you now have enough experience and cynicism to have a one on one conversation with me. We can now discuss things on a common level of understanding.

Yes, I am being facetious, but yet, most of my clients have gone down this road. I don't get on people's case for buying cheap ass crap, I simply ask them if they like the way it works. If it does, then they made the right choice for them.
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:02 PM   #182
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I'm perfectly happy with Arlo that I've had a couple years now. I guess it depends on what you are asking from a system.


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I'm perfectly happy with Arlo that I've had a couple years now. I guess it depends on what you are asking from a system.


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The evolution of understanding.

I encourage all DIY'ers and others looking for a bargain surveillance system to first buy the cheapest piece of crap that money can buy - at Costco, Big Box Electronic store, off the Internet, wherever.

After 6 mos or a year, you will have found out why that stuff was so cheap. Too many boring and sundry reasons to list, but you will find out. Now it's time to buy another system, but a little pricier. Perhaps the premium system from the big box store or the internet.

After another several months or a year (or so), you'll find out why that system was priced low too. So now it's time to buy a system from an alarm company. Especially one that buys enough mediocre crap from some Chinese manufacturer, where they can put their own private brand name on them. This gives it more credibility.

After a couple more years of dealing with alarm company stuff (especially large national or regional alarm companies), you now have enough experience and cynicism to have a one on one conversation with me. We can now discuss things on a common level of understanding.

Yes, I am being facetious, but yet, most of my clients have gone down this road. I don't get on people's case for buying cheap ass crap, I simply ask them if they like the way it works. If it does, then they made the right choice for them.
I hear ya, but I put Hik in my house, I like their UI more than Axis, Pelco or any other premium brand.
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I hear ya, but I put Hik in my house, I like their UI more than Axis, Pelco or any other premium brand.
I spec a lot of Hikvision, LTS, and some similar price level systems based on budget and customer needs. The key point is that we never install or work on stuff we cannot support.

Remember the line: if you touch it, you own it. Which is why I don't get involved with brands or unknowns that have histories of being unreliable. Even Arlo has mixed reviews from buyers who's expectations weren't met by the performance of the product. So that is something that I am careful of when recommending products.
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The whole point of Arlo is to not have an installer. The mobility of the cameras is what I like. There are many times I just want to keep an eye on my dog if she's sick. So I can put Arlo in the house.

I have five mobile cameras. There's not any significant crime in my neighborhood to worry about. But it's still nice to have a camera pointed at my truck.

It doesn't really make since to have a high dollar surveillance system here. Something about a 185 lb. dog that perps don't like.

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The whole point of Arlo is to not have an installer. The mobility of the cameras is what I like. There are many times I just want to keep an eye on my dog if she's sick. So I can put Arlo in the house.

I have five mobile cameras. There's not any significant crime in my neighborhood to worry about. But it's still nice to have a camera pointed at my truck.

It doesn't really make since to have a high dollar surveillance system here. Something about a 185 lb. dog that perps don't like.

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I just installed the 4 camera system from QSee, just something to get up and recording. I plan to add some wireless to my security.
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I can go 3 months on a set of batteries. However the new devices come with rechargeable batteries and 1080p.

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Gotta love the warehouse being close. Showed up today...ordered it yesterday.

Do I have to have a monitor hooked to it always or can I just access everything through my desktop on the LAN after setup? I want to mount the NVR out of sight.

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Seems like a good place to ask.... Looking at building a new house next year (maybe the year after but I sure as hell hope it's next year) for us. I plan on adding some external cameras and since we're building I want to run wired cameras, hoping to run cameras that can run off cat6 with POE but I can do COAX if it just makes sense (which I doubt) so what are some cameras for me with POE, hard drive recording, and access from a smart device? not looking to spend an arm and a leg, but also not interested in garbage. minimum 16 devices for recording but might only start with 8-10 cameras with ability to add more to a shop later.

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Seems like a good place to ask.... Looking at building a new house next year (maybe the year after but I sure as hell hope it's next year) for us. I plan on adding some external cameras and since we're building I want to run wired cameras, hoping to run cameras that can run off cat6 with POE but I can do COAX if it just makes sense (which I doubt) so what are some cameras for me with POE, hard drive recording, and access from a smart device? not looking to spend an arm and a leg, but also not interested in garbage. minimum 16 devices for recording but might only start with 8-10 cameras with ability to add more to a shop later.

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The Hik I just got has all that. Uses Cat5 or 6. They have many different sizes available for about any number of cameras. Do you have an ADI account? They have other brands available too.

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The Hik I just got has all that. Uses Cat5 or 6. They have many different sizes available for about any number of cameras. Do you have an ADI account? They have other brands available too.

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I don't even know what ADI is so I'm pretty sure no...

I'll look at the Hik.
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Gotta love the warehouse being close. Showed up today...ordered it yesterday.

Do I have to have a monitor hooked to it always or can I just access everything through my desktop on the LAN after setup? I want to mount the NVR out of sight.

Yeah hide it, you don't need a monitor hooked up, the interface directly from the Linux box sucks anyway.

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Seems like a good place to ask.... Looking at building a new house next year (maybe the year after but I sure as hell hope it's next year) for us. I plan on adding some external cameras and since we're building I want to run wired cameras, hoping to run cameras that can run off cat6 with POE but I can do COAX if it just makes sense (which I doubt) so what are some cameras for me with POE, hard drive recording, and access from a smart device? not looking to spend an arm and a leg, but also not interested in garbage. minimum 16 devices for recording but might only start with 8-10 cameras with ability to add more to a shop later.

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Get the same as Overanalyze.
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If you are going to do the setup and install yourself, the Hik UI is not designed with simple questions and answers to complete the setup. It isn't hard but it uses menu based settings. A simple UI to use but if you are not a little tech savvy you may not like to set it up. Just my initial thoughts as I install our system. On the flip side it has tons of settings you can adjust to your liking. Lots of info out there to help set it up if you do go that route.

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I'm pretty tech savy so that's not an issue, I'll take a look at it.
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I'm pretty tech savy so that's not an issue, I'll take a look at it.
Check out blue iris software. It will turn a computer into a video recorder/ server and they have a nice app to view remotely.
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I'm pretty tech savy so that's not an issue, I'll take a look at it.
Got ours up and running today. Have a few notification things to tweak but it looks good. 6 cameras, running the cat5, mounting the NVR is a discreet location and setup was half a day for 3 of us. Had some extra time in reading up on how to set it up as well. Most of that time was running the cat5 in the attic and through the soffits.

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