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Old 03-23-2007, 10:13 PM   #1
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Wow Read This. This Is In VA And This Is Why Its So Hard For Me To Win Bids


This is what i truely hate about my state. We sit and pay for this crap and then ontop of it I don't get the work because guess why? Because they come in at 1/4 of my price. For example I lost a bid the other day on painting a small commercial office building. Was about 10 offices, kitchen and 1200 sq. ft. open office area. I bidded like $5,800. I know I was told that was kidda low bid. Anyways a Painter with 4 illegals bidded $1,200. WTF?? How the heck honestly could they do it for that...>Seriously I was in Awwwwwww..

Anyways read on this is a great GUY to do this. I will sure help him as im sure alot of us would
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The founder of the Herndon Minutemen said yesterday that he has turned over to authorities the names and addresses of at least 16 unlicensed contractors who regularly hire immigrants and illegal aliens outside a 7-Eleven in town.
George Taplin said he reported the contractors for tax fraud and business-licensing and zoning violations to agencies such as the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), the Virginia Employment Commission, and Virginia taxation and professional and occupational regulation departments.
Mr. Taplin said his group found that only five of the 16 contractors work in Herndon. The others work in the Sterling, Ashburn, Leesburg, Falls Church and Manassas areas of Virginia and in the District, he said.
"Why are we ... providing government services from the town of Herndon to support all the communities in the area that don't pay taxes in Herndon?" Mr. Taplin said at a press conference held at the site of the town's new day-laborer center.
The center is scheduled to open at 6 a.m. tomorrow.
Herndon Mayor Michael O'Reilly, who did not attend the press conference, said the Herndon Minutemen are missing the point. He said taxpayer money is already spent on day laborers every day through police calls and other enforcement.
"Whether the contractors are taking the employees and working [elsewhere] is really not the issue," the mayor said. "The issue is we've got men standing on the corner now and what can we do to impose some regulation and clean up the area."
In the summer, Herndon officials approved the establishment of a day-laborer center, which would be funded partly with taxpayer money. As a result, six Herndon residents, including Mr. Taplin, sued the town to bar use of taxpayer funds for the project.
A hearing in the case has been scheduled for Friday.
The day-laborer center will be run by Project Hope and Harmony, a group of churches and community leaders who sought the town's approval for the center.
The Minutemen identified the contractors by videotaping and photographing their vehicle logos and license plates, following them to work sites and researching their business practices online, Mr. Taplin said.
The group has photographed more than 150 potential contractors, Mr. Taplin said, adding that it will further investigate the contractors before reporting to authorities.

Mr. Taplin said he would not identify the contractors until the agencies complete their investigation.
Most of the agencies could not be reached for comment yesterday. The IRS recently declined to comment on the matter, citing disclosure laws and privacy regulations.
In October, Mr. Taplin and about 125 members of the Herndon Minutemen set out to remove illegal aliens from Herndon by drying up the job market.
He estimates that the group's presence has cut by about one-third the number of immigrants, illegals and contractors at the 7-Eleven, though he said cold temperatures might have played a factor.
The Minutemen will continue to monitor contractors, and the group might install a Web camera that would broadcast activity at the center on the Web site of Help Save Herndon, a community activist group, Mr. Taplin said. The Web site is www.helpsaveherndon.org.
Mr. Taplin estimated that illegal aliens cost Herndon taxpayers $2.3 million a year and the state $517 million.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:28 PM   #2
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john ... what's wrong??

unless i misread ...

you have a citizen who is actively turning in illegitimate contractors to the authorities.

maybe one of the same ones who underbid you on that paint job???

i think it's great

at least the man doesn't sit on the internet 12 hours a day whining about it --- he's out there doin it!!!

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Old 03-23-2007, 10:39 PM   #3
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Hey Dirt thanks for reply! I meant the illegal labor work is pi$$ing me off. Oh, I am way for that guy doing that! Ill help him and could put another 20 companies down in matter of 5 minutes. It's all over here...There is a new website coming out soon called

www.StopIllegalLabor.com

Lets all join in and stop the madness. We are loosing money for our family and they are putting legal companies out of commission.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:40 PM   #4
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you just gotta laugh these things off

you'll find that these guys do a few jobs and take off to another city to live in

then their "workers" will be calling you and others for work

its a life cycle

you may want to call up on the client that went with the low-bidder just to ask how their project came out, they may need some repair work
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:44 PM   #5
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Thats true Matt...I just might to tell you the truth.. Then when they say horrible I will say what did you expect for 1200. Then when they ask for me to come fix it the new price will be $10,800. I know how to play that game
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I remember seeing this company in the painting forum a few months ago. They advertise 2500 sq ft house $1080 how could any one compete with that. They were in south florida and had offices in 3 counties so they we legit.


Does any one know how much per hour illegals get?

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Old 03-24-2007, 05:30 AM   #7
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Is minutemen some kind of labor orginization, like labor ready or labor source? If so this guy isn't doing this because he is a patriot, he is doing it for his own gain; "Hire my illegals, not ythe illegals on the street corner."

However if the minutemen is some kind of patriotic orgnization then this guy is doing a good thing.

It's funny, every town has a 7-11 kiunda place where you can go pick up cheap labor. Everyone knows it, and yet the government claims to be cracking down on illegals but these places are never raided. I can't even drive certain areas in the morning without being mobbed by guys looking for work. If I and ever other contractor know this I am sure Uncle Sam does as well.


Having multiple offices doesn't make you legit per say. For example hire a sub contractor who can show you his insurance papers, that's legit. But pay him such a low price that he pays his guys cash and none of them are covered under that insurance ploicy and more than likley doesn't pay taxes, and that's not necessarily legit.; but that is how most low ballers do it.

Seems legit on paper, but as you dig deeper you see the contractor's subs are breaking the law. I was going to say the contractor is forcing them, but nobody is holding a gun to their heads to work for too-chea-to-do-it-right-wages.

One other thing regarding multiple offices... Quite often those "multiple offices" are nothing more than PO Boxes.
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Is minutemen some kind of labor orginization, like labor ready or labor source? If so this guy isn't doing this because he is a patriot, he is doing it for his own gain; "Hire my illegals, not ythe illegals on the street corner."

However if the minutemen is some kind of patriotic orgnization then this guy is doing a good thing.
Yes the Minutemen are indeed a patriotic organization of volunteers who work to protect our country from the invasion of illegal immigrants. About a year or so ago they were all over the news because hundreds of them went down to patrol the mexican border to bring attention to our government's pathetic efforts and general lack of interest in doing so. Not everyone supports the Minutemen, but I do.
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It's funny, every town has a 7-11 kiunda place where you can go pick up cheap labor.
You know, I keep seeing this on TV. Not in my city (Albuquerque). Our population is 1 million +. There are plenty of Mexican workers, but you won't find them anywhere soliciting work.

We had a day labor center but it closed down a few years back because there was no available labor.

Until two years ago I would hire homeless to do general labor when I could. Even they don't want it. I would pay $10 per hour clear, for 8 hours even if we worked less, supply lunch (big mack, fries, coke) cash their checks because they had no accounts and the banks would charge 15%, I would pick them up and take them back to the shelter, and still I couldn't get anyone who would work. This was just picking up trash and weeds around the jobsite, nothing tough, and they weren't asked to work fast.

Some would come out and work for 4 hours (still got lunch). One guy was honest enough to say, I get free food, housing, clothing, transportation, all I need is beer. Four hour buys me beer for two days. We have very low unemployment and natives don't want to do physical work.
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One guy was honest enough to say, I get free food, housing, clothing, transportation, all I need is beer. Four hour buys me beer for two days. We have very low unemployment and natives don't want to do physical work.
Our kind, generous government is enabling these guys to the point of hurting them because they've become so fukkin lazy.

Here the group of illegals who mob my truck have a few places they wait and they're known as "The Millionaires Club".
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This subject is a double edged sword if I ever saw one .......you take away cheap labor, illegal or not, and you promote imperialism. You take away regulation, and you promote cheap labor.....I think it's the delicate balance that keeps growing small business so lets be careful and not take the self employment option away from our kids.
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It's a patriotic orgnization. Northern VA is filled with illegal labor. They have to be illegal cause they are getting paid 4 dollars an hour. Honestly what LEGAL guy whom paid taxes make 4 an hour. Thats illegal here alone. Min. wage here is like mid 6's. We need to just do something to stop illegal labor. If they are legal awsome. I will hire if they are legal, but I am tired of loosing jobs to illegal companies and I know for sure because I have been watching some of these companies for few years now. They arent really legit companies either. Just like a false made up name.
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Check out: http://www.wehirealiens.com/
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Thanks for the link, I've been looking for a place to report this A-Hole!
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This is by far the best way to get rid of the illegals in your area. Funny stuff

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...n+racist&hl=en

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Old 03-29-2007, 10:37 AM   #17
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HAHA yeah I have seen this. I thought about doing that and show up and blow my trucks Train Horn. That will get some attention
that guy has a few more...he will get shot oneday
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hilarious


although, i did not approve of the racial slur-like terms the guy used
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Has anyone else noticed that in America we are slowly being taught that working with your hands is a bad thing?

The funny thing is that some laborers get paid MORE than some who sit in an office all day. Myself I hate being in the office and much prefer the field. It probably has to do with having been in the Army; more specifically the airborne Infantry.
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Has anyone else noticed that in America we are slowly being taught that working with your hands is a bad thing?

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that's the other thing about the video i didn't like

it seemed to hint at that sentiment as well

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