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Old 05-09-2009, 05:28 PM   #1
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I was listening to this audio CD the other day from Earl Nightingale. I heard something that is quite astounding really. It's one of those things that grabs your attention. I'm not saying this is a guarantee, or we should go out in the streets yelling "our problems are solved!". Everyone better know that success doesn't come to them without a price, it just doesn't fall into your lap.

However, the study was "without exception".

Here's an excerpt from a company I'm not sure if it is affiliated with Nightingale or not.

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"Not enough people realize that it is our ability to use our language that will determine our place on the social pyramid–and that will also control, to a great extent, the amount of money we will earn during our lives." Earl Nightingale, "Lead the Field"

"A person may dress in the latest fashion and present a very attractive appearance. So far, so good. But the minute he opens his mouth and begins to speak, he proclaims to the world his level on our social pyramid...Our use of our language is the one thing we can't hide."

Earl Nightingale was one of the greatest self-improvement speakers and authors of all time, and was co-founder of Nightingale-Conant Corporation.

He wrote of a 20-year study of college graduates. "Without a single exception, those who had scored highest on the vocabulary test given in college, were in the top income group, while those who had scored the lowest were in the bottom income group."

He also wrote of a study by scientist Johnson O'Connor, who gave vocabulary tests to executive and supervisory personnel in 39 large manufacturing companies. "Presidents and vice presidents averaged 236 out of a possible 272 points; managers averaged 168; superintendents, 140; foremen, 114; floor bosses, 86. In virtually every case, vocabulary correlated with executive level and income."
This shows a pattern. 100% true in every day life? Of course there's going to be some exceptions.

This is just another tool to use for your personal development area. I thought this was a very interesting point of focus for construction people. Do you feel the majority of workers in construction will wallow in low paying misery and complaining about it day after day simply because they don't have an expanded vocabulary?

I have been trying to break my habit of being judgmental lately, and sometimes I find it difficult to look away from the train wreck. Every once in awhile I see someone come on, type a response or start a thread, usually complaining about low ball hacks and such, and start to dissect the way they write it and think "no wonder you're complaining, you're a dimwit"

No offense to the dimwits.

What do you think? Hold merit?

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I am overtly critical of any assessment of success based upon the preconceived notions of a particular regarding vocabulary. While many may surmise that an overuse of ones pretentious vocabulary may involuntarily contribute to a self imposed self righteous felling of inadequacy, I for one would never conceive of a more callous disregard for professional, calculated, inordinate nonsense.

Just kidding! Yeah I agree a good vocabulary is very important, but there are many people who just use it to try to appear superior to others.
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Extensive vocabulary = success. Who knew??
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I sucked at vocabulary, english and such to do with words. I excelled in math, science and real world effects. And here I am, the president of my company.
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I totally %$#king agree, vocabulary is very *&#king important!
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So, if I had paid more in school, I:
could be wearing a clip on tie w/ a short sleeve shirt
should be working in a cubicle farm
would be posting on the diy board asking how to replace a door knob.
could be a politican, they use a lot of words to say nothing.

I'm happy I paid more attention in shop class than english class.
They can use them fitty cent words to call me names, just don't call me late for dinner.
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How many contractors have seen the movie My Fair Lady. The movie was based on a professor's ability to tell the social status of a person by the way they speak. I think this is one of the best movies ever made.

Vocabulary, or the way a person speaks definitely seems to tell a lot about a person, but many people have speech impediments and they are geniuses in many ways.
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An example spoken by the most adorable Woman who has ever Graced the Earth.

Accompanied by a Fantastic Narrative about the English Language spoken by a talent nonpareil!


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My Mother JAMMED this down my Brain and Throat growing up!

I never did understand...............Until the day that it actually meant something.
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Doesn't explain you must be comfortable with your dialogues.

I am a high school dropout but I read a lot, I am also teaching a seminar (my first) at the remodeling expo in Indianapolis this October. One of the reasons they asked me was they like the common man tone of my blog, and the fact I could use humor and still get a message across.
Also a few years ago I was asked to speak to the graduating class at a local tech college, I explained I never finished high school and they said I had achieved some things that might inspire some students and they thought I would effectively deliver the message.
I think what Earl Nightingale means is if you speak and get the message understood to most of the people you talk to, you have gained command of the language and your listeners.
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I also believe some who find success begin to conform to the common traits of those around them...the Rodney Dangerfield's of the world may be far and few between.
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This whole forum is Rodney Dangerfields, and a few even funnier.
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I worked for a guy ( Has regular column in Remodeling Magazine) that encouraged all of us to use a vocabulary SLIGHTLY above our audience. Examples would be to use fenestration instead of windows etc. I always thought he was right as it differentiated me from the others who were using winders and in the wind blows ers. (Sorry Phonetics always escaped me). But it really depends on your audience. You need to tailor it to them or risk losing them.
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Of course. I didn't mean that you talk like the queen of England around your drinkin' buddies
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How 'bout:

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Does this qualify for an 'extensive vocabulary?'
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, I am also teaching a seminar (my first) at the remodeling expo in Indianapolis this October.
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What do you think? Hold merit?

well...like...DUHH
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I think that insofar as vocabulary usually indicates a certain level of education that the idea has merit.

On the other hand wit, common sense, raw intelligence, determination and work ethic certainly play a role as well. And let's not forget karma, luck, serendipity, good fortune, grace or being blessed; whatever you subscribe to in spiritual sense.

As a common exception to that rule: what about the stereotypical southern accented good ol' boy type who speaks with a drawl and coloquialisms and shrewdly takes advantage of being underestimated by others?

I think misusing words can be very prohibitive to someone's professional advancement. Beyond that I think people can sense shrewd and intelligent business people even behind a limited vocabulary.
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Sounds great for a sales pitch, - - and I don't disagree at all with the validity of the stats, - - but it wasn't the vocabulary that formed the achievers, - - it was the achievers that formed the vocabulary.
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Hey there, very nicely said Framerman! In total agreement. What are the names of some of the helpful books you have read that help in this area of vocabulary? Also this is my first post to this site. How has this site helped? How do you use it as a helpful tool?
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