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Old 10-01-2009, 08:07 PM   #21
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What the OP describes is in fact the fondation of the business model of some of the largest and most successful businesses on the planet.

In Europe the have mega retail chains. Years ago smaller retailers complained that the mega chains were charging basically cost for products, which they couldn't compete with. The chains had discovered the combination of market elasticity and differential payment terms.

They negotiated long payment terms to their suppliers - 60, 90, 120 days or more. But they received payment on the spot, being retail. What that meant was that they had maybe a quarter of their annual gross sales in the bank at any moment. A tidy sum when your annual sales are maybe a billion dollars. Then they found that lowering their prices brought inmore business than they lost from the reduced margins, so their gross sales figures actually went up on lower unit prices, meaning they had more inthe bak collecting interest the less they charged.

The retail activity became nothing more than a flow-through vehicle to keep the bank accounts topped up with cash and they made their real profits from investing these huge sums.

The principle is sound, Techie.
That's all well and good if you're Walmart and you are F&&king over somebody like Exxon.

However, we are small businesses and our subs are usually smaller businesses.

There are different rules that apply here... maybe one of them is honor and ethics and a good dose of fair play goes a long way instead of trying to screw your neighbor in the race for an extra 1/2% of something?

Also it should be more about profit then float. We all need to keep our eye on the prize and not be distracted by nonsense. I guarantee you anybody that does that will come out far ahead in the long run vs some penny pinching douche who made an extra 1/2% off the backs of his subs and suppliers just and due bills.

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Old 10-02-2009, 09:03 AM   #22
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That's all well and good if you're Walmart ...
However, we are small businesses and our subs are usually smaller businesses. There are different rules that apply here....
Agreed. It's a great story, and it's worth it if you have a $200-million float in the bank. On $20k, you're gonna do better getting a 5% discount for being a good payor.
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If you are getting up to 10% for paying on time or net 30 whatever the terms are, you would be crazy to pass that up. I haven’t heard of 10% usually 3% discounts are common.

Take the 10%, you won’t make that in interest by holding payments.
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If you are getting up to 10% for paying on time or net 30 whatever the terms are, you would be crazy to pass that up. I haven’t heard of 10% usually 3% discounts are common.

Take the 10%, you won’t make that in interest by holding payments.
It's traditionally :

"10 net 2"

Meaning pay within 10 days, deduct 2%.

But what you are trying to get across is sound.
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When you open an account at a supply house you may get a 2% discount for paying early, but you are probably paying 5% to 10% more than you have to. This is because (at least for plumbers) when it gets close to the end the month the supply houses are notorious for inflating your bill by more than 10%.

This is how it works. We used to buy up to 40,000 feet of pipe every month. Suppose at the beginning of the month the price for the pipe was 25 cents a foot. When we got our bill the supply house charged us 28 cents a foot. That 3 cents seems tiny, but it is an increase of over 10% and the quantiy is huge. When we called and told the supply house that every other supplier was still charging 25 cents they would always say we (the supply house) just got our updated price for pipe and the other supply houses probably haven't updated their books.

So, about 30 years ago we closed our accounts at every supply house and pay C. O. D.. Since we are writing checks on-the-spot we haggle with the supply houses before placing every order and we have more bargaining power because they know we are not going to file Chapter 13 on them.

Ironically, there are many supply house who refuse to do business with us because they can't screw us at the end of the month, and because we are onto their game, and they don't want us to mingle with the dummies who don't mind getting ripped at the end of every month.

One more reason we pay all bills as soon as possible is to get the money out of our checking account as soon as possible so we know exactly how much we have left to run the business and for personal investments. Suppose we owe $50,000 in bills and we have $75,000 in our checking account. If we don't pay our bills as soon as possible we may think we have more money than we can spend, purchase a large item that could wait, and cut our checking account too short before we pay our bills.

Paying your bills is good money management. Pay every bill immediately and what is left is yours.
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