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Trade: Plumbing, heating, real estate, general contractor
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Re: Marketing Pains
Advertising packets from China, including magnet calendars, pens, garden hose washers, & flyers $100,000
Flyers printed in the U.S. $30,000 Flyer and packet delivery $200,000 Direct mail campaigns from our customer list $ 7,000 Advertising campaigns to inspect previous jobs $10,000 Plastic business cards $2500 Tee shirts $2,000 Yellow pages - Zero Web site - No pay per click Truck lettering $800 Kickbacks???(Just a joke) Referral coupons $300 Newspaper ads $15,000 Stickers $100 Office supplies for advertising $2,000 |
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Trade: Plumbing, heating, real estate, general contractor
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Re: Marketing PainsQuote:
If I were to move to a metropolis, with absolutely no money, within a few weeks, I could generate up $50,000 to $100,000 in sales, every week. You can't do this with yellow pages, radio, television, letters, nor any other advertising media. The only way is with flyers. The problem many contractors have with flyers is they don't understand how effective they can be, nor how to get them printed and delivered efficiently. Until, someone proves me wrong, next to the yellow pages, the internet is the next worse advertising media. There is no magic pill for getting good internet business. There is a relevance for everything. The internet sounds like a cheap magical way to get business. It is not. It can be very expensive and it produces young price-shopping cheap customers who are less serious. This is how you can be the boss, have control, and make what you want to happen, happen today. WHY FLYERS ARE THE BEST FORM OF ADVERTISING You can target your demographics like the snipers in 'Enemy At The Gates'. There is no other advertising media that is this accurate. You can target very specific homes that require your services. You can target homes with a specific age, types of pipes, types of furnaces, etc. You eliminate delivery to the types of structures you do not provide services for. You can specifically target homeowners and skip tenants, apartments, an commercial buildings. You can target the income level and age of your customers. You eliminate almost 100% of your competition with flyers. The customers call only you and he (or she) is not calling from a list of customers, above and below your listing, in the yellow pages, newspapers, and magazines, and they are not cheapos surfing the net, looking for something for free. MOST OLDER PEOPLE WITH MONEY DO NOT HAVE COMPUTERS, and even if they do, they do not surf the internet, for contractors. I'm not waiting for the young people to get old, so I can do business with them. Most contractors, I know, don't like to do business with people who call from cell phones. or use the internet. I monitor my calls and sales, very closely, and there is a difference. Yes, we do a lot ob business with people who call from phones and people who own computers, but the best customers don't...... You can change the art work, prices, and test your campaign more frequently. Flyers give you total for the amount of calls (work) that you want. When you want more work, deliver more flyers. When you have too much work, flyers give you the opportunity to save money, by reducing delivery, and cutting your advertising when you do not need work. Flyers produce a higher number of calls than any other advertising media. You cannot make an informed decision by delivering only 1,000 flyers. You must deliver at least 100,000 flyers to get fair results. At first, it appears that the calls generated from flyers are not favorable. As you deliver, more flyers, the number of calls generated increases exponentially. Deliver only 1,000 flyers and you will need luck and your good looks to stay in business. If you are lucky, you will receive 1 call. This is not so good. Deliver 5,000 flyers in one week and maybe you will get two or three calls the first week. This is not too bad if you target the proper homes and customers and you know how to close larger sales. Even though, the number of calls is small and this is not so good. These are the average results from delivering flyers. Week Flyers Total Calls Repeat Business Preivous Flyers Total Calls 1 5,000 5,000 2 2 2 5,000 10,000 2 4 3 5,000 15,000 2 1 7 4 5,000 20,000 2 1 10 5 5,000 25,000 2 1 2 15 6 5,000 30,000 2 2 19 7, 5,000 35,000 2 1 2 25 8 5,000 40,000 2 3 30 9 5,000 45,000 2 3 37 10 5,000 50,000 2 1 4 43 WHAT IS THE COST TO GET 43 SERVICE CALLS. Cost to prints 50,000 flyers x 2.2 cents = $1,124.2 Cost to deliver 50,000 flyers x 3.5 cents = $1750 + 1124.20 + delivery = $2,874 $2874 / 43 = $66.84 cost to get every call. This is very low when compared to yellow pages and other advertising media. Some people will keep your flyers for many years just the same as they keep business cards. People will call you several years later and you will keep getting referrals and repeat business. Eventually, your cost for flyers will shrink to about $35 to $50 per customer. This is the best advertising media when compared to any other. RETURN ON INVESTMENT While it may be nice to know how much every customer costs to get, when you do only very small jobs, this is the only reason we look at the cost to get each customer. We are more interested in our return-on-investment. For every 100,000 flyers we deliver our total cost, with printing, is about $5600. Our gross sales for every 100,000 flyers is about $300,000. This means, for each flyer, we printed and delivered, we grossed about $3 in sales. If our net profit is 35% our return on investments is 300,000 X 35% = $105,000. Return on investment = $5600 / $105,000 = 1,800% (one thousand eight hundred percent). For every dollar you invest in flyers, you are going to earn an $18 profit. There are several ways plug in and calculate your own numbers. There is no other advertising media that gives you this type of control over profit and the number of calls you want to receive. DELIVERING FLYERS Most people don't realize that you do not have to deliver flyers by hand. You can pay several newspapers and magazines to insert your flyers in their publications for only 3.5 cents each. Just think about this for a minute. There are hundreds of ads in a newspaper and every single person that touches that paper sees your ad because if falls out of the paper. You cannot do this with any other advertising media. You are guaranteed that every customer will see your ad. That is a lot of 'bang for your buck.' DESIGNING YOUR FLYER This is something that even the advertising experts can't do right. You need to think about what the customer is thinking. Go through our ads on our web site and look for a pattern. Use as few words as possible. Design an ad and take out every work that is useless. Try to make statements with pictures and no words at all. Don't tell the customer the story about how you got started and why you are honest. The only thing the customer needs is, 'the solution to their problem'. Don't write that you are reasonable, fair, and will beat any price. If this is true, then write your price and show the customer. Prices always produce the best results. Use a loss-leader if you have one. Our most powerful ads say "Introductory Special". This can be for furnace cleaning, inspections, drain cleaning, copper repipes, etc. Use only one type of font. We use Arial 100% of the time and we always make the print as large as possible. This is because we want older people to be able to read our ads. Advertising must always be designed with 'left-to-write' in mind. This is now people read, so don't put information all over the paper like horse poop. We use full color pictures and get our flyers printed in quantities of 100,000 to 500,000 on web presses. We pay less than 2.2 cents for an 8 x 10 flyers, printed on both sides, in full color. When designing the flyer, use no more that two colors for everything other than the pictures. We use dark red and dark blue. The headline must be on top of the flyer and this is the most critical part of the flyer. There is nothing more important than the headline. This is what you want the customer to get attracted to. If you do not have a headline that can be read from the floor, your flyer will not be effective. This headline is what stops the customer from throwing your flyer in the trash. You company name is the least important thing in your flyer. If the customer is enticed, by the headline, and moves to your offer, he will look for your company name. So, don't waste space on your name. Your phone number must be very large and on the bottom of the page. You don't want to aggravate your customer by making the phone number difficult to find and read. For the serious plumber, you cannot test flyers with less than 100,000. There is some serious money to be made. Go to our web site and look at our 'Marry A Plumber' ad and our copper piping ad. Before you print a flyer, send me a copy and I will give you some constructive criticism. We get full color flyers, printed on glossy paper, on two sides, for about 2.2 cents each at Licher Direct Mail in Pasadena. Do you realize how cheap that is compared to a post card or a letter. We get the flyers delivered, by many different companies for 5 cents, or less. We insert them in new papers for as low as 1.5 cents each. That is a cost of only 2.9 cents to get 2 pages of information to customers. There is no advertising media that is this powerful and no media that lets you decide how much business you want. Post cards and other advertising campaigns are too expensive and too difficult to manage. It is very difficult, to find and manage mailing lists, and to send 10,000 or 20,000 post cards, every week. First, you pay a horrible rate, each week, for a mailing list. Then you must pay for the card, the printing, packaging, and delivery. Your cost, to deliver 50,000 post cards, is probably about 30 cents, or more per card. That would be $15,000 to deliver 30,000 cards, compared to $2782, for 50,000 flyers. For $15,000, you can print and deliver 260,000 flyers. You can corner the market. You can be the only game in town. You can make your competitors green with envy. You will have no competition and you will be able to increase your prices because you will have so much work, price will be the last thing you are worried about. How many responses can anyone guarantee after spending $2,200 on the internet. I spent about $6,000, on Google AdWords, had AdWords design the campaign, and I did not get one call. I believe that other plumbers clicked my PPC until the money was depleted. Last edited by pcplumber; 11-09-2008 at 04:35 PM. |
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Trade: Replacement of windows,siding and doors
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 244
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Re: Marketing Pains
this is very helpful. do you sue the larger metroploitan newpapers or small local ones? also can you please tell me what are these lcoal delivery services about for 5 cents. do they deliver to house? thanks
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Trade: Replacement of windows,siding and doors
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Re: Marketing Pains
hey great info. can you tell me what are the adevertising packets from china?
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Trade: Remodeling Contractor
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Salsibury, MA
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Re: Marketing Pains
I use lead services and my own website. The lead services do no qualify their leads even though they claim to. I was spending about 1000 per month. I find the leads I have received are either people trying to find out if their brother in-law is over charging them, trying to get some idea what the job entails so they can do it themselves or they are getting 15 different proposals. They only seem to care about the lowest price. You can try to sell the client on quality, but they want both. For the most part the person who sells them on quality but is the cheapest wins most bids. I think our intentions are to give them both, but when you start the job. You can not help but try to find was to save a few dollars. So homeowners do not get both after all. I also find some contractors lowball their customer and then bring the lowball price up with changes. I don't do business this way. That is why I have cut my lead service budget down 75%. I am considering cutting it to 0. If you use something like craigslist to find work that is a whole other story. The homeowners will tell you how long everything will take and what they are willing to pay, but you have to be insured and licensed. That site is a total waste of time
I do feel the internet plays a roll, but I think it is with a quality website and conventional advertising drawing people to your website. I have won many jobs because of my website. When they compare my site to other local contractors they see the quality and it has paid off. Just my opinion. Last edited by maceycon; 12-02-2008 at 10:03 AM. Reason: mistake |
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