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Trade: General Contracting
Join Date: Apr 2009
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How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
I am curious to see how general contractors handle paying subs. Do you allow the homeowner pay the bills direct and tell them up front you want X for the job, or you need x percent? Or do you pay the subs out of an account and bill the home owner at the end of the project.
Specifically, I am talking about building a complete home. Thanks in advance |
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Super B
Trade: General Contractor Lic. since 1985
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Socal Ground Zero
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
The subs get paid at different times. Therefore the GC needs money all the time. GC secures the money from HO. Everybody gets paid on demo, tear off, material deliveries, labor draws and/or passing inspections. In exchange for lien releases.
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Pro
Trade: Custom Modular builder
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denver, CO
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
I plan my draws according to needs to pay for materials and labor. Like the post above a draw may be on the start of some phase of the job. Our deposit up front handles alot of the initial materials and get us to the next phase.
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Sean
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs Were supposed to pay the subs, no wonder why my phone is always ringning in the middle of the night...![]() Seriously though, along with the info listed above --- for small jobs the Electrical, HVAC & Plumbing subs generally get paid twice - at the end of Rough In & the Finish - generally the day they finish & I sign off on it. The rest of the subs get paid at completion. (No hold backs - deposits rarely ever asked for here) Larger jobs, If the subs job will last more than a couple of weeks - draws will be given based on work completed |
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Remodeling GC
Trade: Remodeling General Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Denver Colorado
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
When their rough inspections pass I pay them, I use the same subs for 5 years now though.
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Thom
Trade: General Contractor/Homebuilder
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Albuquerque NM
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
Broncoman, as the GC, it is your job to provide financing for the job. That can be done in several ways.
1) get a construction loan (or the client can). This will require clear title on the lot and a lien on that title. 2) finance it out of your pocket. 3) finance it out of your clients pocket. No matter which system you use, you must establish the payout schedule so you will have the cash to pay your subs as they finish their portions of the project. This may require you to be able to cover some of the costs during the interim. Construction financing will be your most valuable tool. Save $ so you can provide it yourself and over time you will be at a competitive advantage. |
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Trade: Keeping my thoughts to myself
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nowhereman
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
The real question here is "should this guy be in business???"
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Dave from Macatawa
Trade: GC, cabinet maker and remodeler
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, TX
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
Years back I had to change because I could not finance 15 homes a year and buyers could back out at the close.
Now, or at least I used to until this economy hit, I have a closing before construction starts. The owner supplies 100% financing and I get my money from the title company. The title company protects the owner, all the improvements are capital improvements on the owners real property, and I know the money is in the bank before I start. Everyone likes it. |
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Trade: LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs![]()
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Trade: General, Electrical, and Plumbing Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Portland, OR & Eatonville, WA
Posts: 1,265
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying SubsQuote:
![]() ![]() ![]() Only way to do it. We have some very good subs. And they know I am going to pay them the day they are done and not come up with the pay you in 30 days stuff. You always reward great work with prompt payment and they are not there to finance my job. |
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Pro
Trade: Kitchen & Bath
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Millersville, PA
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
Quickly and with gusto.
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Remodeler Extraordinare
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bay Area California
Posts: 809
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
With our plumbing subscontractors, we typically pay them upon completion. With our drywall subcontractors, we will pay them a percentage upon startup, and the rest when they are done.
We do the rest
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Registered User
Trade: General Contracting
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: How Do You GC's Handle Paying Subs
I am not in business yet, simply thinking about getting into GCing/Construction management.
To those of you providing good feedback, I appreciate it. I was curious becuase financing a couple houses would be very difficult when starting out. |
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