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Trade: Remodeling Contractor
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Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
A Client suggested that we should expand our business into home maintenance. She mentioned, that if we could sign 50 clients up @ $1,000 a piece, we have $50,000 to play with. Within her community alone, I’m pretty sure we can sign that.
We perform most of the work for these clients, everything from minor handyman jobs to full renovations, additions.. Etc.. The main problem I see at this point, is because we are getting the larger jobs, we overlook small repairs/services calls. Meaning…. We don’t charge for the service. Yes, I do understand, we are losing money here, and I want to fill this void. Im pretty sure you guys understand where I am coming from. The biggest is problem I seen so far is trying to develop a system that works for us. Lets assuming the buy in for the program is $1000 per year, Ok so where do we proceed from there? Do we do an initial punch list before entering the problem to eliminate possible calls down the road? What about pricing service calls? Hourly? Job? .. Dad has been in the business for over 24 years, we have tons of clients. Any Suggestions Greatly Appreciated. |
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
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Contractor
Trade: Remodeling & Home Additions
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Delaware
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
bill on a monthly basis-show up twice per month and work on a punch list towards the 'x' number of hours. stop at the designated hours or with HO permission continue at additional 'Y' hourly rate. The rest of the program will cost ya!
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Sean
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
I wish I could find the article I read about 4 or 5 years ago - I am still working it out
Per the article the company charged 695 which included 2 visits a year, 3 or 4 hours for a scheduled list of upkeep tasks & 1 hour of the HO's choosing (install towel bar, etc...) Here is one I found that might get you started http://www.remodeling.hw.net/business/a-fine-fix.aspx Let me know how it goes, I want to have my program up & running by January 1st (of course I said that last year to) |
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Trade: Perfessional Contracter
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Location: Frozen North
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
It sounds great, similar to a lawn mowing/snow removal annual contract for basic "upkeep"?
I would include a thorough annual or semi-annual inspection as part of the package, in the proccess creating your own Honey Do list. Keep us posted, I may rip you off. ![]() Edit: The inspection is included in the contract, the Honey Do list projects get charged for, each and every one. Last edited by davitk; 09-15-2009 at 07:31 PM. |
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
Do you happen to have a check list? I mean, I know what needs to be checked, but id like to see list as well. |
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Sean
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
I am still working on mine (I am working on posting a monthly checklist for Homeowners on my blog right now - Sept's is up). You do have to vary it per each house though - some require ceramic tile sealing, others don't - how many smoke alarms, caulking where, etc... so a 1 price fits all won't really fly, unless you have a base list & do add-on's for sealing tile, over 100 LF of caulking, etc...
One item to consider is a tie in with maybe an HVAC company so they can do their semi-annual or annual checkup / cleaning at the same time |
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
What I would do is offer a semi-annual inspection for 500.00 or so, and sell it as performing a "home check up" and spend four or five hours every six months creating a list of current and pending maintenance and repairs, which could be priced out or offered done on a T & M basis. Offering a maintenance contract on an entire home IMHO is paramount to writing a remodel contract with no exclusions and not using change orders. How could you make any money? |
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Trade: Custom Modular builder
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denver, CO
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
Go to PC Plumber's profile and see all of his posts. He is a whiz at maintenance programs and offers great advice and helpful sales techniques.
I think it is a great idea for you. It is a numbers game. Right now I think that is where the market is for most people right now. Just fix and maintain their property. Terry |
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Sean
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
As an FYI - you can get in trouble in most states for offering a "home check up" without being licensed as a home inspector. That is not to say - while your there & cleaning out the gutters that you might not notice the hail damage, etc... |
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
Really? You must be thinking of real estate law, not home improvement law.
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Trade: Residential & Commercial Remodeling / Roofing
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Denver
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
Saw this on another site, thought I would post it as fyi...hope it helps
"The American Society of Home Inspectors advises homeowners to budget .75% of a home's value for annual maintenance for homes less than 10 years old. That jumps to 1.5% for homes in their second decade and 3.0% for homes in the third decade." |
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
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Trade: Licensed Electrical Contractor and Remodeler
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
The posters are right on track. Be careful and hire a good lawyer to make sure the rules are in place. Don't get stuck replacing a $5000 condensor unit due to poor "fine print". The idea is great but as several posters suggested, place alot of stock in the details of your agreements with your clients. They will always try to get you to fix a decades old problem for "free". Be careful.
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New Guy
Trade: Construction
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
Does sound like a money maker but good luck working out the kinks.
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
My advantages now are:
I have an established business already. I have every possible tool known to man lol I have large clientele base All license & insurances & WC are in place I have an idea what to cover and what Im trying to sell, I trying to figure out if materials are to be bought, how will i be compensated or what if anything at all should be included. |
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Trade: General Contractor
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Location: Chicago
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
I think your idea is sound and makes sense...but it is the kind that makes sense and the immediate benefit can be seen by facility managers and other property managers and pro construction folks. I also think the average homeowner may not see the benefit of of such a plan and if they signed up would just lie in wait to play the gotcha game and try to milk it for all they could. Even unreasonable tasks like ext foundation repair, rewiring the whole house due to old (cloth) wiring, replacing miles of pipe because if one piece is full of crusted sediment it stands that all that was placed at the same time is in the same condition. Or replace the entire driveway because of a few cracks. How about leaky roof callbacks until you`ve replaced most of the roof. Call backs being their workaround to your hourly limit. I think you would have to have a list of exclusions a mile long or they would wake up hunting wabbitt and you`re the wabbit. Now, if you changed the potential customer pool to small businesses that don`t have an inhouse maintenance team..... Last edited by GrasshopperPete; 09-22-2009 at 05:11 AM. |
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
Question for you guys.... I am basically selling x amount of hours for a list of areas i cover, how do I handle material purchases and timing? |
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Sean
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,Quote:
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Starving Tile Artist
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Re: Home Maintenance Program - Ideas, Suggestions,
This was exactly how I established the Home Maintenance Services portion of my company. I am charging ***.xx per year for monthly inspection services on rental properties. I've had this running for over a year now and have 22 in state clients and 8 out of state clients.
I do a monthly inspection of 80 points in and around the home. This includes changing filters and gutter cleaning. I also offer pressure washing on the property every 6 months and supply a monthly report. If I find things that need to be addressed I list them in the report and speak with the HO (not the tenant) about them. We then work out weather they want to address the issue now or later and if they would like to use my services or someone else to effect repairs. I charge my normal hourly rates for this. If there are plumbing, electrical or HVAC repairs needed I simply refer someone in the area and they use them 90% of the time. I recently had a HO from Va. contact me about the services and told me that she had been using a property management company for 5 years at $2,200.00 a year. They offered only a 1 year inspection and no maintenance. And she had to locate any contractors she may need. Edit: Make sure you check with your state licensing to see if this is listed under Home Inspections. You may need to aquire that license to do this.
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