Guess I'm Done Working With Hardee's

IHI

Did a remodel (minor) at one location last year and they paid the invoice within 30 days, great experience. The same general manager called an wanted work bid at a different location, gut/redo type job. Normally for a job this size I would bill before start of job to collect down payment and then bill for the remaining after we're done, but I had a window of time open up and they agreed we could start. Looked like Extreme home makeover with the amount of guys we brought in to whoop this job out in 2.5 nights (had to work 3rd shift so as not to interfere with daily operations out in lobby)

Well, job completed May 18th and faxed bill to regional guy that handles the payments, I called yesterday to check status. He called and said it normall takes 60-90 days to generate a check?? I told him the other store we worked with had us paid by the typical 30 day due date, and you'd a thought he just saw somebody walk on water, he coudl'nt believe an invoice could be paid that quickly. So now I get to eat up material costs and labor costs in the thousands for 3 months until they can generate payment...what a crock I wonder how my accounts and laborers would react if i gave them that line of BS!!

Just had to vent, called another account that owed since February and he could'nt believe it was'nt paid yet and gave me the "I'll mail it out today" line. Amount owed looks great right now on the books, but ya'll know that never comes in like it's supposed to and you have to scrape by between when they decide to pay ya Even a good freind of mine screwed me, we humped ass to redo his home for his kids graduation party, kept telling him I need settled up when we're done since I gave him a buddy deal and pushed aside big money makers to do this...yep, you guessed it...3 weeks and still not paid off..."installment plan" I never knew we talked about

And it's been raining all week so no production thus far since we're outside for everything...aggggghhhh

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Mike Finley

I'll bet ya he isn't waiting 60-90 days for his vacation pay to arrive! I always hated that 60-90 day bull sh!t. Back when I worked for corporatons and big companies I always quizzed them, kind of like interviewed them about payment times and such. I was extremely solvent so I was never worried about the money, it wasn't going to hurt us, but I just never liked waiting for money I had earned. When I complete a job on Monday for somebody, I want to be paid on Tuesday, I feel waiting till Wed is taking advantage of my company.

One thing I did for sure, was when a company was on net 30, and it was day 33 and I hadn't gotten a check, I was on the phone hounding the hell out of them every 3 days. I think before it was all said and done I trained quite a few accounts payable workers to pay my company on time because it was easier than fielding all those phone calls from me that were guaranteed to be coming.

Grumpy

Didnt you have terms of payment written into your proposal? If so add finance charges.

"I'm sorry Mr. Customer but had I known I would have to finance this job for 90 days, I would have raised the price to cover short term loan interest expenses. I have to cover materials within 30 days at my suppliers and payroll within 7 days on my employees. My proposal clearly states that I am to be paid within 30 days and we are past that time frame. If I don't get payment by Tomorrow, I will start having to add late fees and finance charges as per our service agreement. You understand, don't you?"

dougchips

How about sending a bill due in 7 days and on the 8th day file a lein.

IHI

Well, I guess I'll retract my pizzed off attitude and chaulk up the karma gods to good fortune. I got home tonight, opened the mail box and low and behold the Hardee's check and the check from the trucking company that owed me from February were both in the mail

Guess i'll have to whine and a lil more often LOL!!!

Still have'nt seen or heard from buddy that owes though

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theworx

Many years ago was a 1/3 partner in a foundation repair company. We did underpinning, leveling, water proofing, basement slabs, etc... We landed a contract with the Canadian government (the Army) to underpin, level the foundation, break out and pour a new slab, and water proof the foundations of three homes that they owned where I guess the big wig Generals stayed in. In our contract we stated we would get paid 30 days after completion of job or 2% would be added on after that. We also agreed that all our work was to be approved by their engineers.

Well, we completed the three homes, they did their testing of our concrete strength and approved everything else. 30 days after the jobs were complete I started getting calls from our suppliers. We owed $40,000 for concrete and $5,000 for steel (re-bar) and they're asking where's the money??? Had to tell them we haven't gotten paid yet and will keep you posted. Phone the Army and they say "Well everything has been approved here but it's gone to another department for approval". It took 6 months to get paid from the Government after it went from one department to another to another for approval, and basically killed our credit with our suppliers.

That was basically the downfall of my first attempt of being part owner of my own company (we folded shortly after that). Our name was sh*t with suppliers and had to pay up front for everything and for bigger jobs could not afford to do so. So we were toast. Funny how the client can sign a contract with stated conditions to protect yourself and you still lose in the end!!!

IHI

For the record with hardee's it's always been a 15 day turn around stated in the estimate/proposal/contract to thwart off the "long time to pay" situation.

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linkster01

I like hardees chesse burgers

Grumpy

Is Chess burger something like a checker burger or is it more like a yahtzee burger?

Melissa

We've tried this before, and it didn't work.

Mike Finley

What part doesn't work for you? Legally you can charge interest on any debt. Normally you take the legal maximum annual percentage of interest allowed and divide it by 12. Then send them a statement every month with the interest accruing.

Melissa

The hard part was getting them to open their checkbook and write in any dollar amount, let alone interest.

We wrote a letter and "threatened" professionally of course, that we will be charging interest if it wasn't received by x date. But didn't get anything. We put "first notice", "second notice", "third notice". Didn't work. Talked to her on the phone, she appologized, said she hadn't seen the mail, blamed her husband, said she would put it in the mail right away. Still didn't get anything. It was a very low dollar amount, so we let it go. Sort of. I'm still bitter.

BreyerConstruct

Don't get better, get bitter!!! LOL

My wife has a harder time letting go of "wrongs" than I do, I wonder if it has to do with women being naturally trusting....

Just my mussings... my brain is shot from a long day.

~Matt

DaveH

Just a Hardees note..I remodeled a kitchen once in one. 3rd shift...the store manager didn't want to cover anything in the kitchen because they had to clean it afterwards anyways...I pulled out a few tiles...then I pull out a tile over the fryer and a dried up mouse drops into the fryer oil..I tell the night manager...He pulls out the fry basket..dips the mouse out and throws it away. Next morning while we were leaving I see him flip the switch on the fryer! He made fries all day in that thing. I called the health dept. on them I never heard what happened next..
Would you like fries with that?

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theworx

We renovated 3 Korean restaurants in shopping malls last year. The greasiest, most gross jobs I've ever had to do. Had to demo the ceilings to replace with new and when removing ceiling tiles had dead mice falling on my head coated in oil. Happened at least once on all three. Not to mention the mouse turds falling out of the ceiling while removing it. Also when pulling their equipment away from the walls to allow for installation of new finishes, mounds of mouse crap were under them. Yuck!!! And painters went through gallons of TSP mixture before they were able to apply paint (because of all the grease/oil buildup)...

Since we did those jobs I haven't had one meal from a food court in a mall or even a burger from a fast food place. I'm too freaked out at what happens behind the scenes.

IHI

Speaking from experience of being a fry cook in a restraunt through HS I will tell you first hand regular restraunts are'nt any better, actually McDonalds is very strict about food handling (at least the store I worked at was for the 6 months I was there) but the real kitchen had things go on they put in movies....where do you think they got the ideas??? LOL!!

Only 2 things to remember when eating at a restraunt

1. Dont send your food back, it will be "tampered with"

2. dont send your food back ESPECIALLY when it's busy, it will make the tampering from the first rule seem like a poster child for the FDA LOL!!

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A+Carpenter

I have a full time collections agency and private investigator that tracks accounts that are overdue 60 days. If you need some info let or help with this let me know.

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urbanrevivals

God, I had this happen in buckets when we had to gut the basement of this old house. Used as a group house. Crumbling foundation... rats coming up into the basement through the concrete cracks from the sewer, living in the walls, and getting water out of a leak in the kitchen. We fixed this baby fast; talk about motivated. Pretty posh digs for them here in DC. I can't believe previous renters lived here for years with the crap in the walls and rat traps everywhere. When you really see how those animals make trails in the wall, climb between floors, and make nests, you actually get some respect for their ingenuity and filth. We were full body suits with respirators -- we looked like NASA employees during that effort. Sorry for the details. This post brought back a lot of memories. Guess you guys see this more than I do. It was amazing.

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