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Pro
Trade: GC/ Interior & Exterior Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 1,886
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The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?
There is always the question of doing the right job for the right money. There is always the question of generating sales by quality work, affordable prices or just plain gravy referrals.
So are you good at navigating the grey area? The old saying is its not what you know but who you know, isnt it? It is certainly true that a referral from a reputable source like a community leader or architect is worth far more than random calls. When sales through contacts are made from these sources do you "kick back"? A source providing you with quality leads in low competition bids is like money in the bank. This is a grey area. How many people care about your work quality? Dont they just go to the bottom line of your estimates first? They dont really know what they're looking at as long as it works and its affordable. Do you price per plan? or do you price what you think should have been in those plans? Is it less ethical to deliberately omit costs on a job for the sake of a competetive bidding against less proffessionals only to come back with extras once you have the job? They were not on the plans right? Again the grey area. Honesty the best policy? Is just pricing the job the way you feel it should be done using the proper materials and techniques from only satisfied referred leads really keeping you from growing? Standing alone by these policys can have your bids always high. While it may be the business we all want to enforce isnt navigating the grey area how we really survive. "If ******x says your the best you must be", how much and when do we start". A couple of leads came across my desk that present a few special opportunities that can change my business and exposure. All it really took was the right connection to be in the position. |
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Contractor, v2.0
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gulf Coast
Posts: 188
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?Quote:
I've pretty much quit bidding those jobs - I'm not the best at forcing change orders. I bring it up in the sales presentation - basically a "this is the way it ought to be and you're gonna want it that way" type pitch. |
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Curmudgeon
Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
Posts: 11,707
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?
I can....
A) Sleep at night B) Not sleep at night Pretty much all of my choices in life are based on these two options.
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Custom Fence Builder
Trade: Fence Manufacture and Installation
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 906
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?Quote:
A commercial job gets bid to spec, as long as no code is broken and fundamental quality isn't sacrificed (we won't put up garbage, even to hit a bid). If a GC or development company can't sort out the wheat from the chaff, that's their problem. |
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Pro
Trade: GC/ Interior & Exterior Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 1,886
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?
Not many people are good at change orders they can cause confusion and problems. Thats the way I would pitch it myself but how often does it help?
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Pro
Trade: GC/ Interior & Exterior Remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 1,886
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?
I agree with your approach but would dissect what an architect puts out? Some people think your a contractor looking for more money.
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It's all about the Avatar
Trade: I have no face!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,798
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?Quote:
If you are about quality then sell the quality, if the customer does not agree then who ever refered them has misinformed them to who you are....quality comes at a price. Intelligent people know this. |
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Custom Fence Builder
Trade: Fence Manufacture and Installation
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 906
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?Quote:
But given that we do fences that are rarely on the plans anyhow, it's generally a moot point. |
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windows & siding
Trade: Home Performance: windows and exterior remodeling
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SE wisconsin
Posts: 657
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Re: The Grey Area Of The Const. Business?
I try my best to make sure that I dont omit anything. Nobody would argue that the best leads are referrals, and it is easier to make a customer happy when they pay the original price they are quoted, no more. If that means my price isn't the lowest then so be it. Any customer who would pick me solely based on being the cheapest I could take or leave....That being said, my business is all retail. I don't deal with commercial or developers so that may be a different situation.
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