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GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I have a GC that wants us to do work for him, however, he stated that his company requires him to "verify insurance and do a criminal background check on all subs" I can certainly understand verifying insurance, but, criminal background checks??? Has anyone ever run into any thing like this??
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????Quote:
Yes, I know someone who runs criminal background checks on all of his subs. The guy even runs one on himself every year. He really wants to ensure that he is not sending people with a criminal history into his client's homes. The guy will not issue work to a sub nor will he pay one without a current copy of their insurance. The guy just spent a minute typing this post.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
In my state for 6 bucks you could run a check on him. Not only criminal but anything civil also. It would show if He's been sued by a sub or homeowner etc. or if he has sued a sub, homeowner, etc. It'll show how many traffic tickets he has... I think it's the "brave new world".
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I run them on my employees, why not on a sub. Same as Doug said, I want to know who is going in the home.
Edit: I don't want to know, I need to know. |
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????Quote:
As I previous posted, I have no problem with anyone verifying our insurance coverage, bond, references, etc., however, I do find it very bizarre to do criminal background checks on subs. |
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I don't see it as bizarre if I want to know if the plumber I send in to a multi-million dollar home has a past life as a cat burglar. Or a child molester. Or a ...... you name it.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I use to work for a home center hiring installers and that is where I learned about the practice. We would do it to cover our butt if something did happen. Let's say we sent Sam to a client's home and he decides to steal some money. The act is bad enough but if Sam had a known criminal history then we would of failed to protect our client.
I continue the practice with my own business to protect my clients and my company name. We actually promote the criminal background checks to our clients. I tried promoting drug testing last year and the idea flopped. You can get drug test kits on-line for around $10 that work with saliva and they give results in a few minutes.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I know you fellas mean well, and everyone has has to cover there own a$$ and all, but I find prying into someones past a bit offensive. We all make mistakes down the road of our lives, some big, some small, but don't any of ya think for a minute you couldn't be flushed down the judicial toilet. Our frickin criminal system is a blind drunk bar whore who just got knocked up by the local McDonalds grill master and now she's kicked the door in with a shotgun blazing........that's why I use the drive threw.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
Side note, I conducted a criminal background check on my summer helper (18 years old), he is my neighbors kid and I have know him since he was 10. The only reason, because I tell my clients that everyone on their job-site has a clean background.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I know my backgrounds clean ......cause I wiped it earlier.
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Oh, I think you were talking about your backend not background, in which case do not use white out.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I agree with the practice. If you dont you can decline to accept work from the GC.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
So how many guys over the age of 14 can pass the drug test, pass the background investigation, show up to work with some experience and be productive? And.. don't already have a nice job with bennies??
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
There may also be a client requirement to this for commercial work...
In any case, makes sense to me. I am looking to start doing this myself for prospective employees. It would be devastating to my reputation to have an employee steal, or something worse, on one of my projects....
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
I don't see it being too far off into the future when you insurance company is going to require it.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
If your going to pull reports be sure to learn how to read them.... "Forcible entry and detainer" sounds bad and shows up on my court records. It means I evicted someone. Look for words like plaintiff and defendant. In the reports i've been pulling it is not always clear.
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Re: GC Wants To Do Criminal Background Checks On Subs????
As a SUB, I could understand having this request made of me and philsophyically, I wouldn't have too much trouble with it. But, would you decline to hire a sub that has (for instance) a marijuana bust on thier record? Or something else that would not reasonably be related to risk of theft on the job?
Otherwise, I might be tempted to place a claim stating that I was being unfairly judged for something completely unrelated... dale |
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