Florida Contractor Does Work And Doesn't Get Paid!!!!!

bwalley

Since the guy is not licensed to do drywall work, he has no line rights and no right to sue.

Chapter 713 states that no lien shall exist in favor of any party who is not properly licensed in the County in which the project is located for the work being performed. In short, if you do not have the proper licenses to do what you're doing, where you're doing it, you have no lien rights.

bwalley

I am a Certified Building Contractor, a Certified Air Conditioning Contractor and as soon as the stae issues my license number a Certified Plumbing Contractor.

Drywall work requires a Division 1 license, or a specialty contractor license, the company you are doing the work under has to have a qualifier to be licensed.

I looked up your company name on sunbiz.org, you are a registered corporation, the corporation does not have a license.

Therefore you are an unlicensed contractor and have no lien rights or right to sue.

I am not assuming anything about the way you run your business, I am basing all of my information on your posts.

Who told you what you were doing was legal?

I know the laws very well in regards to what is required to legally do work as a contractor in Florida.

BTW a contractors license in Florida is not one you just go buy or pick up, Florida is the hardest state in the country to get a contractors license in.

Go to www.myfloridalicense.com and look up the information for yourself, don't take my word for it.

localtradesman

Patrick, The three thousand is only projections for the period of two months work. The total contract was roughly 16 Thousand in total. The 3K just represents a net profit (after all expenses) I will make my next move on this matter on Monday. I did get two phone calls from both contractors above me and they are panicking and posturing for the big blitz I have coming their way this week. Certified letters, explaining the whole situation and what I want and what will happen if they do not Pay. I do have a ace in the whole.....this would be the Maintenance Company that is between the Bank and the GC. It is funny because no one has mentioned them, they don't know that I know the Company. This is going to be interesting. I must say that I have no reason to slander anyone. Just speak the truth!!

bwalley

As soon as you start bringing this up, they will spend 3 minutes doing an internet search and realize you are an unlicensed contractor and tat will shut you down, if you keep flapping your gator, they could call Law Enforcement and you could get arrested for working as an unlicensed contractor.

I am not saying this is what happened to you in this case, but many people will knowingly hire unlicensed contractors, because they know they can't be liened or sued by the unlicensed contractor.

You should tread lightly in this matter, it will cost you more tha $3,000 in legal fee's and getting arrested for unlicensed activity will make it harder to get a license as that is one of the questions they ask on the state application.

RidgeWalker

Scratch my idea! LOL

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Driftwood

Takes some guts ! Write up a sandwich board. I did const. work for this bank
and was not paid! Honk ,If You support Me and My family! Call up the local t v stations,have a few friends call also. Do this on a mon. Morn. Dress in work
clean work clothes,Mom and Kids would be a big plus. Be friendly and wave.
Good luck. Keep message simple and honest. No need to explain the layer of
authority. You did work to the property and were not paid !

THE LAST THING BANKS NEED NOW ARE MORE BAD PRESS.

They will cut a check fast! Don't leave until check in hand,NO PROMISES!

GOOD LUCK! DRIFT

IHI

If the OP is an unliscenced hack, he's s..t out of luck since he chose to illigally participate in a business practice. If this is truely the case, he is really taking a huge chance with the publicity route since THEY will perform background checks on all involved trying to dig up dirt and make a really juicey story that will come back to haunt him. i guess i'm looking at it from the banks and larger GC's perspective, somebody tries to screw me, I'll screw them back with speckled shades...and in this case, should the OP poster truely be an unlicensced hack, he is out of business. but if his net profit for 2 months work is $3K it proves he's a hack and proves he has no idea about running a business, you can work at McDonalds part time and make that money.

I just had to get in here since based off what i've read, i wanted to watch the train wreck first hand...sorry.

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Driftwood

PERCEPTION IS WHAT THE BANK CARES ABOUT!

He did the work,He deserves to get paid!

This is the court of public opinion, not a license board meeting!

IHI

He starts trying to go for the jugular and brining bad media to the bank when it was'nt their fault to begin with, i'm sure their PR and human resources would gladly bury this tool at his own game. He does'nt get any sympothay from me at all operating at hack status, he is the reason markets are ruined everywhere, he has nowhere near the overhead we as REAL businesses need to operate legally so he lowballs...heck, his "net profit" admission is proof positive of that. Can you compete with that? did'nt think so, but that just dropped market value of whatever his job was and the funniest part of it, multiple people got paid off his stupidity.

What's funnier yet, other than throwing a public hissy fit that may get attention for a day depending on how he goes about it, he's dealing with the crap he brought upon himself...and guys are showing sympathy?? i think it's hilarious, all the soap box preachers pizzing and moaning about hacks on this site, and here we have a hack plain as day and people are saying him getting screwed is'nt right???? hope some folks decide which side of the fence they are truely on, compassion for illegals or comedy watching the hack crash and burn...and i'm sure that $3K is a huge deal for him too hence all the squaking coming out of him. maybe this will put him under so the true contractors working under state and city laws can get on with business the way it's supposed to be conducted.

Wow, that turned into more than i expected....faucking hacks, cant stand'em.

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CF Construction

I didn't read every post here, but for a $3,000 profit to go through all this? It seems to me as if though you might be better off eating this loss, especially since you're not licensed. You may find yourself in a worse situation (financially/loss wise) if you tried pursuing this further, especially with your very aggressive tactic (again, I've only read a few posts). You definitely can't place a lien in this property seeing as to how you're not licensed, and since the time frame has come and gone.

Again, I think it's best you let this be one of those "lesson learned" scenarios we've all experienced and perhaps think of making your business legit (by no means am I telling you how to run your business, it's just a suggestion). Maybe next time someone tried doing this, you have more "pull" to file any sort of complaint or lien.

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bwalley

It isn't the bank that is beating this guy out of money, it is the contractor who hired him.

A bank is not going to be so easily blackmailed in a case like this, a guy picketting the bank will just look like a fool and get a suntan.

Chris Johnson

If the bank was smart...which they normally are dealing with folks like us, they I would assume received clearance certificates from the GC, who I assume got them from his subs and suppliers saying all invoices were paid.

If that's the case, your screwed. You being unlicensed may have a hope of going after the guy that hired you, but I don't know Florida law, what Bwalley is saying is give it up, get a license and this can help you in the future moving forward...Welcome to the school of hard knocks

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WCDS

Well I hope you get your money from the sub that hired you because I believe if you performed work per an agreement then you should receive compensation for it....but I have a question for you;

Are you planning to get licensed in Florida for your trade or just continue business as usual?

hbelectric

In California, I go after thier bond and file a complaint with the state board, of course lien the property . The license board can revoke their license and it will stay on their record if not resolved.

bwalley

This guy is not a licensed contractor, how is the CILB going to revoke what he doesn't have?

Metro M & L

I don't know florida law but in oregon you can't file a lien without a license but you can still pursue small claims. But like everyone else was saying, they may have more leverage on you (not being licensed, the gc calling his buddy over at the permitting office) than vice versa.

And btw, you are going way to far up the tree. The contractor who hired you is the one who pays you, not the bank. Take him to small claims.

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bwalley

In Florida Unlicensed contractors have no right to sue or file a lien.

It is a crime in Florida to contract without a license.

Unlicensed contractors can be held liable for triple damages as well, so they can do the job, not get paid and then get sued for triple damages and since they are not a licensed contractor their statements about the quality of the work won't matter since the court will not recognize them as an expert witness.

ProWallGuy

6 months later, I'd love to hear how this all turned out.

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