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Old 11-22-2008, 09:10 PM   #1
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Fair Price To Pay To Have Envelopes Hand Addressed?


I want to do a portion of my direct mail in house to bring down the cost. Basically i need to find someone to hand address 200-300 envelopes a month.

My handwriting is not neat enough. What is a fair price to pay for this? I am guessing my best bet is to post a add on craigslist.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:13 PM   #2
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Hire a part time secretary? They have programs that can print the addresses on the envelope that look like normal handwriting, etc...

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If you feel you really have to use a program, make sure it is not with a "phoney" font that can be spotted easily by a high school kid. You do not want to be absolutely perfect, but within the realm of personal and high quality.

Make sure the stamp is a new or commemorative stamp and it put on slightly crooked. No bulk mail stamps allowed!!!
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Couple of questions...

How are you getting the customer list?
[By hand from the phone book or some other source....some sort of computer generated list?]

Is it your requirement that they be "hand written"?
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I want to do a portion of my direct mail in house to bring down the cost. Basically i need to find someone to hand address 200-300 envelopes a month.

My handwriting is not neat enough. What is a fair price to pay for this? I am guessing my best bet is to post a add on craigslist.
dude ... these quarter million dollar projects you're always talking about --- and you're going to hand write a bunch of direct mailers???




no focus again. STOP

THINK.



This is going to cost you money. I would rather pay MORE for a better quality job (from a professional direct mail service). By the time you pay for postage, pay for printing, pay some yahoo off craigslist, etc etc --- you won't save any money ... and you'll have a sh*tty(er) looking mailer


my god - at least use MS Word for the labels
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According to the gurus, handwritten letters get opened more. This not entirely true, because I believe customers open 100%, of all envelopes, when the envelope looks like something important may be inside, even when the envelope has a label attached.

Some envelopes with labels are very important. Many businesses use the Brother QL-500 label printer, when mailing checks. I do this, every week, and I use the same envelopes, when I do direct mail campaigns.

Junk mail envelopes have unique characteristics. They use labels, with code numbers, and bar coding that is a dead giveaway.

For direct mail campaigns, I use standard No. 5 envelope (I think) that is white, and I use a 1-1/7" x 3-1/2" label. I believe that every customer opens my envelope, and no customer will take the chance and throw it away.

The gurus tell you that orange envelopes with brown print get opened more. They also look more like junk mail. Lawyers don't send you letters in orange or pink envelopes. Serious messages come in white envelopes.

Of course, your envelope does not have to be white. They could be any very light color with a design that has a professional look.

I could type 300 names, print the letters, and print the labels in less than three hours. Why pay someone. Learn to do it yourself, save the money, and have better control.

Also, what is very important, our database will print the customer's name and address on each letter. When we do direct mail, it is more important to have the customer's name on the letter, because this is what really makes the letter personal. You may fool the customer with the hand-written envelope, but you will disappoint the customer when the envelope is opened.

Our database will manage your customer lists, print the customer's name on the letters, and print the labels. Go to the File Swap section and look at the Customer List database. It is simple to use and free. Well maybe simple. I made it myself.
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Our database will manage your customer lists, print the customer's name on the letters, and print the labels. Go to the File Swap section and look at the Customer List database. It is simple to use and free. Well maybe simple. I made it myself.

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I can just imagine the quality of writing you get from some CraigsList crackhead looking to make enough for his next meth fix.
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dude ... these quarter million dollar projects you're always talking about --- and you're going to hand write a bunch of direct mailers???




no focus again. STOP

THINK.



This is going to cost you money. I would rather pay MORE for a better quality job (from a professional direct mail service). By the time you pay for postage, pay for printing, pay some yahoo off craigslist, etc etc --- you won't save any money ... and you'll have a sh*tty(er) looking mailer


my god - at least use MS Word for the labels



Dude how do you think I get these 250k jobs???? Had addressed direct mail letters.

Hand addressed #6 ivory envolpes with more then 1 stamp on it works the best. I tried countless different methods.


I would not do it myself during the busy season. But I am going to have a slow winter and have no proablem stuffing 250 envelopes a month to save a little dough.
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... I believe customers open 100%, of all envelopes.....

I believe that every customer opens my envelope, and no customer will take the chance and throw it away.

The gurus tell you that orange envelopes with brown print get opened more. They also look more like junk mail. Lawyers don't send you letters in orange or pink envelopes. Serious messages come in white envelopes.

You may fool the customer with the hand-written envelope, but you will disappoint the customer when the envelope is opened.
No offense, but you really believe the general population is a bunch of morons?
People get disappointed - whatever the color of the junk mail is - when they discover the letter IS junk mail and now they have to get rid of your trash.




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Our database will manage your customer lists, print the customer's name on the letters, and print the labels. Go to the File Swap section and look at the Customer List database. It is simple to use and free. Well maybe simple. I made it myself.
YOUR database?

Anyone can easily make a database using Excel and mail merge that database into Word....it's so easy, even a caveman can do it.



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I could type 300 names, print the letters, and print the labels in less than three hours. Why pay someone. Learn to do it yourself, save the money, and have better control.
This I agree with.

I, too, am starting to sense plumbing is not your trade....
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Hand addressed #6 ivory envolpes with more then 1 stamp on it works the best.
You could use a font that mimics actual hand writing

This is one out a billion font sites
http://www.myfont.de/fonts/top100/downloads.html
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You could use a font that mimics actual hand writing

This is one out a billion font sites
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Tried that already. Not as successful.
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Tried that already. Not as successful.
Personally I would go for a part time secretary hired from Manpower or some other temp agency - have them help with Holiday cards, addressing your Bulk mailers, filling papers, etc... maybe 1 day a week

Back to the slow time vs. busy time & you don't mind churning them out yourself when it is slow - I assume you are mailing to the same people, what once every 3 months, 6 months? Address 2 or 4 envelopes to the same person - one stack for Jan & the other for July. It will take a little bit longer, but not as much as doing 1 stack now & another stack later.

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Tried that already. Not as successful.
Fair enough.

Hire a catholic school girl to write them out.
Seriously.
Make sure you drop off/pick up the stuff off at her house when the parents are home.
...and tell her "No silly little hearts on top of the i 's"
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Fair enough.

Hire a catholic school girl to write them out.
Seriously.
Make sure you drop off/pick up the stuff off at her house when the parents are home.
...and tell her "No silly little hearts on top of the i 's"
Now that tops all the other suggestions. Amen
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Fair enough.

Hire a catholic school girl to write them out.
Seriously.
Make sure you drop off/pick up the stuff off at her house when the parents are home.
...and tell her "No silly little hearts on top of the i 's"

This is something like I would suggest, except they don't have to be in a Catholic school.

But seriously a lot of high schools have a work/study type of program where the student gets out of school early and goes to work for a few hours. They get a full class credit for this and usually it is only seniors that can do this.

So if you can find enough work for a student a couple of hours a day this would be fairly cheap. You could have them do some organizing, filing, etc. besides writing your envelopes.

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