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10-26-2009, 04:40 PM
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JR
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C-51 Steel Structual
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Southern California
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Contractor or Sub?
I gave a proposal for a job to a general contractor. He accepted my proposal. The contractor then told me I needed to make a contract for him to sign. Now, is it the contractor who is the one to make a contract approving and confirming in writing to what information I gave him in the proposal and other items that he may add on, that I agree to. I have never had this problem in all my years in the business.
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10-26-2009, 04:47 PM
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Pro
Trade:
LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
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Location: Long Island, NY
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ERAM, welcome to CT, good to have you, go to the intro page and tell the guys a little about yourself and your business, also complete your profile, as for your question, a sub sends me a estimate or a proposal for a job, if i like it, we both sign it, and off we go. GMOD.
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10-26-2009, 04:55 PM
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Pro
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General Contractor
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Mansfield, Texas
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welcome to the site ... as a GC, I write the contract for my sub to sign .. guess if I were the sub and a GC offered to let me write the contract my reply would be, "Heck yeah!"
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10-26-2009, 05:28 PM
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Pro
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Remodeler
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NW NJ
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How common is this? I have never been asked to write a contract for a sub they write them theselves.
Why would anyone let the other party set the terms. I don't ask the HO to write the contract for me.
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10-26-2009, 05:38 PM
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Pro
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Builder/Developer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kaysville, Utah
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I have a subcontractor contract I'd be happy to share. Its 8 pages long so it will make your GC know you're serious. Its the one I use with my subs. Email me at sam@morganfinehomes.com if you want me to send a copy.
Sam
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10-27-2009, 10:41 AM
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Electrosexual
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Electrical Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: L O S A N G E L E S
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As a sub, always supply your own contracts. I use standard contracts from NEBS. As a businessman, always use your own contracts.
Last edited by Zinsco; 10-27-2009 at 10:44 AM.
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10-27-2009, 10:53 AM
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Starving Tile Artist
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Carpentry, Flooring & (UGLY) Tile installs.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Carolina
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The GC may be testing your business skills with this. Write the contract! Write it fair and equitably! Make sure it is signed in RED ink. That way any judge will know if one is the original or a photocopy!
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10-27-2009, 11:01 AM
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Electrosexual
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Electrical Contractor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wizendwizard
The GC may be testing your business skills with this. Write the contract! Write it fair and equitably! Make sure it is signed in RED ink. That way any judge will know if one is the original or a photocopy!
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I can't imagine a situation where it would matter if it were an original or photocopy. People sign faxes every day and those are legally binding. People even sign digital touch pads with a nylon stylus and that is legally binding.
If you ever attempt to record a document with the county recorder and it is not signed in black ink, they will reject it.
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10-27-2009, 11:05 AM
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Starving Tile Artist
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Carpentry, Flooring & (UGLY) Tile installs.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinsco
I can't imagine a situation where it would matter if it were an original or photocopy. People sign faxes every day and those are legally binding. People even sign digital touch pads with a nylon stylus and that is legally binding.
If you ever attempt to record a document with the county recorder and it is not signed in black ink, they will reject it.
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The red ink clause is a pre PDA thing. I have had to use it when dealing with attorneys a few times.
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10-27-2009, 12:36 PM
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Illusion of Perfection
Trade:
Residential Remodeler/Custom Carpenter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Wayne, PA
Posts: 678
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I've never written up a contract for a sub.
I can't imagine any plumber or electrician being too thrilled about that....
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Wayne, PA
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