$1.00 Raise

ja-builder

Yup, I just received a dollar raise(that puts me at 13/hr). I am grateful for the offering, but thats just it, an offering. I have been working for my boss for 14 mo. now, and Ive had earlier experience before this. In the past 14 mo. hes taken 6 weeks of vacation, leaving me in charge. I get everything done even before the 40 hrs. And yes I then only get paid the hours I say I work (Im honest). I do not get benefits,vacation pay, nothing.
We get a lot of work done in the usual week. I believe he makes buco bucks off me. How do I politey say "hey, Im worth more!"
Please help!!! What is a carpenter making these days; I'm in the comercial end of construction, such as apartment high rises.
Thanks-
J

MALCO.New.York

There is a $3.00 raise here. (If you look REAL hard)


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DecksEtc

7.5% raise after 14 months - not bad.

You could always stop whining and start your own business and compete against him.

You'll probably need $40-$50K for start up - you've got that I right?

Bodger

Slowly, the overtime hours creeped onto the time sheets....

CrpntrFrk

Please don't post like that again. That was too close to sounding like 3rd party Bill.

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Bodger

If you are "in charge" in your boss's absence and making things go as they should on commercial construction jobs, buddy, you are getting reamed at that hourly rate. It should be double, and even more if you lived out here in my neck o' the woods.

buildpinnacle

ja-builder,

First of all, you won't get a ton of sympathy around here as that post came across as a textbook 'employee attitude'. A few points to make, then I will adress your question.

First: The raise you recieved is somewhat standard. It is 8% of your pay. I do not know your hiring agreement, so I don't know if you were hired with a 'let me start you at $12 and see what you got' etc, etc. I try to address raises every 6 months. You do not get a raise at my company unless you deserve it although I do account for cost of living increases. If you are doing what you say, you may be one payraise behind scheudle...maybe. The most important thing that you have to remember is it IS your job to make your boss money. A TON of money.

Second: The other point is this...It is absolutely NONE of your business what your boss does, makes, or how much time he takes off. He had the set to go out and start a business and takes the responsibility to make certain you get a check every week to feed yourself and your family. He owns the business, not you. Any time you want you can jump out and start your own. Do not, I repeat, do not spend your bosses money. I know this may come off as crude, but it is this simple....do your job! That is what you are being paid for. You are only entitled to what you agreed to. Don't expect anything more. Some bosses are more gratious than others.

Now, insofar as the raise, don't make it difficult. Ask your boss for a few minutes of his time or schedule a time with him. Do not corner him! Be prepared. You don't deserve a raise unless you deserve one. Show him why. Let him know how the productivity has gone up and the materials theft has gone down and how your crew hour production is xx better since you arrived. Also, let him know what you would be willing to do in addition to what you do now b/c you are ready to take the next step and learn more about the business, etc etc etc. Good luck. Be a businessman...you are dealing with one.

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JumboJack

Tell him you think you are worth a lot more.If he knows what you are truly worth and knows what he would have to pay to replace you you will get it.If he does not think you are worth it you won't get it.Simple...

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buildpinnacle

Jumbo, you don't go from $13 to $22 in this business. As I said...don't tell him you're worth more. Be prepared and show him how you have and will continue to make him more profitable because of your skills. That is your job! You say that to me and I know it is not BS, you get your raise.

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Ja-builder,

On 11/20 you started a thread inquiring about some 'info' on property restoration that seemed to good to be true and asked advice for the possible add to YOUR BUSINESS. What's your story dude, you own a business or work for someone else.

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Celtic

I worked with a bunch of cabinet/millwork [?] type guys from WI last year here in NJ.
After a few months of bumping shoulders, we got to talking...I asked what they were being paid...the response:
$8 @ home; $10 on the "road".

These guys were very good at the cabinet installs [as sorts of custom display cases, cash wraps, etc]

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JumboJack

If his employer is paying him 13.00 an hour and he knows he could not replace him for less than double that he could be bumped up to 17.00/18.00 no problem.IF,IF he is worth what he seems to think he is..That may be another story.
When I was breaking in to this business I had been working for a GC for a couple years long story short I told him I had another offer.He wanted to keep me and my pay went from 12.50 to 17.00.....

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DecksEtc

Look at the other thread, ja-builder is a "business owner" in that one

mdshunk

Usually guys that start thinking and expressing the things that the OP has are on the fast track to having a bad attitude. A couple more owner vacations and a little more time passed by, and this guy's attitude will make him completely worthless unless he gets his head straight.

ja-builder

Hey Pinnacle-
Thanks for the replys and it sounds like you know how to handle employees that are in my situation.
Yes, I did post a thread on p&p. I am working for a company and I'm in the early stages of starting on my own. I figure I can work during the week for him and then on the weekends for myself, I need some funds to afford the proper ins. and down time before I just jump off the wagon.
Eventually, If I can come up with a good enough business plan I want to invite my boss to merge with me. We could really hit this market good;in my area. Almost to a monopoly, he knows a lot of contacts and so do I.
Thanks-
J

buildpinnacle

If the owner of this company is paying this guy $13 and knows he is worth $20 and will do what you say....he is a crook to begin with and a ton of expletives I care not to write. Please see keywork IF above as I am making no assumptions on the owner of this company...just answering your question. Again, IF I am correct you are dealing with a Conman and good luck with that.

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Ja,

I can appreciate your enterprising attitude, I really can. However, what you are telling us is that you want to get a raise from your boss so he can finance your new business to compete against him at some point later on....if he doesn't just jump ship and become your partner. Not trying to be rude at all.....just think about what you are saying. It is not coming across very well.

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