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Tony from NY

Hello to all,

I work for a reply roofing company. We manufacture a line of roof coatings and reply systems for commercial and industrial applications. I was interested in finding out more about how roofers feel not only about coatings in general, but the general impression of the manufacturers and the products. Thanks.

Cole

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Tony from NY

Cole, I just saw that, I emailed nathan about it, sorry, I just edited the original question. Is it okay now?

Cole

Yeah, seems ok to me.

Thanks for complying to the rules.

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Tony from NY

No problem, I am here to talk to the people we work with so I want to follow all the rules you have and learn as much as I can, while maybe helping out someone else in the process.

Teetorbilt

Got here a bit late but I'm OK with it.

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AaronB.

I think acrylic roof coatings are overrated and overpriced, in general. As a waterproofing system, how could you tout a breather coating as waterproof? To me, a waterproofer would be considered a vapor barrier, with less than .05 perminch

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Scottsdale

We apply millions of dollars of coatings peryear here in Arizona. Of course the coatings are applied of an inch of polyurethane foam. The foam will outlive the house. The coating acts as if sunblock for your skin. Also, the coatings oxidize from the sun and heat and wash away over time by the rain. We apply a new coating system, also called a "recoat" every 5-10 years as a maintenance schedule. These are applied to residentail as well as very large commercial jobs. The foam and coatings application are replacing the old torched on and mopped on systems.

Tony from NY

to: Scottsdale - I understand about the foam and needing to coat that, but I was wondering about the 5 - 10 yr mark on the coatings. We warranty for ten years and suggest a recoat after ten, but 5 seems pretty low. I think you are right about the foam and coatings replacing the old systems as well, especially with some of the "cool roof" mandates. What does the manufacturer of the coatings you use provide that helps you out in the field? What type of support do they offer?

to: Aaron - I am going to get back to your comments, I just want to make sure I answer them as technically correct as I can.

Scottsdale

Tony:
In the past we have manufactured our own coatings. It is relatively simple and cost effective. Because of a higher volume in the recent years it has become more easier for me to purchase the coatings from an intown manufacturer. I apply 2 gallons per 100 square feet yielding 15 mils for a 5 year warranty. 3 gallons and 24 mils for a 10 year warranty, and 4.5 gallons and 30 mils for a 15 year warranty. Now remember these are the initial application. When we return in 5-10 years I only apply a 1.5 gallon coating at 10-12 mils and extend the warranty another 5 years. This is very cost effective and the lower price reflects a maintenance cost more than a new roof coating cost. My manufacturer is very dedicated to what we do and offers a terrific 10-25 year warranty depending on the product. Now, if you apply alot of coatings you'll notice there are many diiferent types depending on solids content. I use a combination of them all. For instance, on large commercial jobs I use a different coatings on the deck than I do encapsulating the parapet walls.

Tony from NY

Our specs call for using different products throughout the stages of the application process which ultimately result in a system that is 45 - 60 mils in repaired and stress areas, of course, depending on which type of application it is those numbers can be different. You are right though, there are a lot of coatings out there and I know solid contents do play a big role, we use the best materials we can find when manufacturing, but some companies don't and sometimes coatings can get a bad rap unjustly. That was one of the reasons for asking. I was curious to see how people in the industry felt about them and being applicators.