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Who Is Still Using Felt?
Is there anyone out there still using felt on roofs? If so, what are your reasons? I am recieving conflicting reports about the need for felt.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
Felt or just underlayment?
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Are you just bored Sparky? Last edited by mics_54; 09-02-2009 at 10:18 AM. |
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
The code here does not call out for felt or underlayment, hence the reason for this question.
Thanks for such an answer, it was very insightful. |
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
I use a synthetic underlayment, goes down faster, stays on better and dries in the roof eliminating the need to tarp.
Is the use of underlayment still an item of debate? I thought that was settled ten years ago. People were sure stupid in the nineties. |
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?Quote:
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in texas with framing and cornish people will do it for 3.00 a foot. What do yall think about that? Just laber |
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
I think what he is driving at is using felt vs the other products that are available?
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
Yes, some are telling me no felt/underlayment is fine, others say the thought alone is crazy. I am trying to wade through the fact/ficton. Thanks for the help.
In other words- can shingles be applied to bare wood? The shingle brand makes it sound like an option as well. GAF Timberlines. |
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
The use of underlayment is a mandatory before the shingles are installed
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
I assume from his screen name he's from Maine where I live. Except for our major cities, you can do almost whatever you feel like. The few simple roofs I have done, they have felt.
I'm not positive since I really don't educate myself on roofing but I thought if you do not put felt or something under, then you void any warranty. I might be full of ****, that's what I was told.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
Actually it depends upon what your code says but if your governing authority uses the 2006 irc it depends on what "roofing" you are installing. The irc says under metal sheet roofing that you must follow the manufacturers installation recommendations. If the manufacturer says the metal is to be installed over felt...then it must be installed over felt by code.
"conflicting reports" are irrelevent. Last edited by mics_54; 09-02-2009 at 12:31 PM. |
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
Thanks for the input, but I still cannot find anywhere on Timberlines website that says I am required to put felt down. They even show bare plywood in some of their photos.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
The Irc R905 seems to indicate underlayment felt is required under asphalt shingles. Bitumin membrane can be substituted if you desire and is required in some instances.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
I've torn off roofs with and without felt. The roof decks with no felt are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS in bad shape and typically need replaced.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
So, what exactly does the felt do then?
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
ya it is not a requirement here either. A lot of new homes don't have it anyhow. Especially in the rural areas. In fact some roofers i have used in the past said they only use felt to help the guy doing the tear off in the future. it doesn't stick to the sheathing.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?Quote:
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
It also keeps the roof sheathing from sucking the asphalt from the shingle. Perhaps urban legend, but probably not.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
It also keeps the sheathing dry until you get the shingles etc installed.
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Re: Who Is Still Using Felt?
I believe I saw you question on another forum (related to water) and posted my response there. If you're going to lay shingles, why not put felt or some sort of underlayment down? For what it cost and the time it takes to install, just do it. Something of such a small magnitude isn't worth the time to question.
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