STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-03-2008, 10:54 PM

Yesterday afternoon, we had a "Moderate" hail storm hit a few of the neighboring communities.

When I was at my bank today, the Gal I normally speak to in the Customer Service department commented how she already had 2 different companies knocking on their door. I happened yesterday at around 5:00 P.M.

So, I was wondering about doing my own mailing out to those neighborhoods?

Using the STOP logo, with the circle and the Slash going through the words, "Storm Chasers".

Then here is an idea to toss out as a script:

Please feel free to add or subtract or make any other comment about the verbiage that you think would get to the point and make a more dramatic impact.

When you Need to have your, Roofing, Siding, or Windows Replaced due to Storm Damage from our recent Hail Damage that blasted through our local area, Please, Go with a Local Contractor who has been serving these communities for nearly 25 Years.

WHY?

Because the Out Of State Storm Chasers will be gone in less than one year, leaving YOU, The Unwary Home Owner Holding The Bag for any Long Term Peace Of Mind Warranty Issues that WILL Come Up.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Contact Ed The Roofers Roofing Company and have your Local Contractor handle the entire Claims Process for you. We have Local. Knowledgeable and Experienced Crews which will Guarantee a much better job being done than by those Fly-By-Night Storm Chasing Contractors who wind up knocking on everyones doors to see who is gullible enough to sign a blank agreement form, which is actually an open ended contract.

Your Local Roofing Contractor, Ed The Roofers Company knows the insurance restoration process better than any of the kids knocking on your door with falsely made up claims of grandeur for your insurance restoration projects.

Ed The Roofers Company will NOT give you a "Blank" Contract Agreement with no dollar amounts listed to sign, but instead, will take the proper time necessary to provide you a comprehensive On Site Analysis and Solution, based on Decades worth of knowledge and Experience to rely on.

What Else?

Ed The Roofer will provide you with a list of over 2,000 satisfied customers, all from one of the surrounding communities, where they have worked to please their customers over the past several decades. Also, if need be, we will provide you with other Local Roofing, Siding and Window Contractors Names if you would like. We know who the real Good Guys Are and Respect them and know they would provide a better service to you than any Storm Chaser would.

WHAT IF I ALREADY SIGNED SOMETHING?

Unless their is a scope of work and an actual agreed upon dollar amount, it is really not an enforceable and binding contract, even if they tell you it is. Have you received the, "Consumers Right To Know" brochure from them when you signed the non-conditional agreement form? If not, then they have violated your Legal Rights and have broken the States Contracting Laws. Check with the Attorney Generals office or website and you will see it is the truth.

Unethical CON-Tractors who set themselves up to be Storm Chasing Experts just Love To Prey On Their Unsuspecting Victims. I have pages upon pages of information from extremely dissatisfied previous Storm Chaser Customers who will tell you what to look out for and what to expect.

Give us a call NOW. We will always be there for you, just like for the past several thousand local customers.

Ed

dougger222 · 07-04-2008, 12:49 AM

Looks good Ed and it looks like you will be one busy man!

It's good and bad. Good because it will make for a good rest of the year and next year. Bad because a lot of roofs you could do 2-10 years from now will be done.

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-04-2008, 12:58 AM

But they will be done by that infestatious swarm known as Insurance Resoration Convicts, errrr, I mean CON-tractors, in short order soon anyways.

I just want my piece of the PIE.

No, I want all of the Pie. I was there first and I am going to make a fuss about it until I get my way.

Ed

dougger222 · 07-04-2008, 10:26 AM

Ed,

I think the best way to stir up work will be going door to door. Go through all your old paperwork and figure a stragety that will keep you from running in circles. Even if there are new home owners in the houses that you roofed you can still tell them your company did the work X years ago and ask them if they have experiance any problems with the workmanship. At that time you can tell them, "My company did it right then and we can do it right again". You can also throw in there are better roofing products now than back then (if the shingles are showing signs of deffects).

Print something out like you posted in your original post and explain it to them in person. Get a bunch of yard signs made and ask if you can put them in the home owners yard. Even if they are not ready to sign up to have the work done yet at least it will make the storm chasers go away.

Just got an email from Xactimate explaining that the third quarter pricing just came out. Some shingles are up $20-30 per square. As a matter of fact most all the roofing line items are up from last quarter. Ice and water took a nice jump.

Now you will be dealing with home owners that will be expecting you to cover their deductibles and even worse home owners that will be expecting you to also put money in their pocket. My Uncle had one that wanted to pay him $3,500 for labor while he put $5,000 in his pocket.

Had a hail storm hit on a Sunday at 5pm a few weeks ago and within an hour there were storm chasers out and about. The storm chasers love weekends and evenings when the home owners have the garage doors opened. They figure it's an open invitation to bother them.

BTW, how big of hail are we talking here?

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-04-2008, 11:45 AM

Big enough to break windows, but not the size you posted.

I didn't get the weather reports, but if you know how to look up a Current event, it is for area codes 60102, Algonquin Illinois and whatever Lake In The Hills, Illinois and Huntley, Illinois are.

e-mail the weather link to me if you know one. I can look up the SPC and the daily reports, unofficial, but still reported list.

Ed

dougger222 · 07-04-2008, 12:23 PM

Not sure how to look up the hail/weather report.

What I like to do is jump up on white or very light colored roofs to gauge the extent of the hail.

Got a call from my agent regarding his good friend who got denied a roof but got paid for valley flashing, facia, gutters, and one side of siding. The call came in about three weeks ago and shortly there after inspected the roof and found a few nice hits here and there but not enough to get 9 hits in the test square on two sides. Decided since the old Timberlines were no longer made it would warrant another adjusters opinion. Yesterday morning met with the adjuster and found hail hits all over the roof. It was an easy claim to write for the adjuster. Sad thing is this will be the third roof on the three year old house...

Ed, gonna PM you some information on what you gave me.

My brother in law has opened a contractor business. My wife and her sister came up with his slogan,
Heavy on the Con
Light on the Contract.

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-04-2008, 01:21 PM

I don't like the heavy On the "Con" aspect. It implies deception.

How about, XYZ CAN-Tractors" Yes, we CAN do it for your budget.

Ed

PS
I will have to share the weather links with you for you to document hail storms that have been reported.

Remind me next week when I get back from visiting my folks in Wisconsin.

dougger222 · 07-04-2008, 03:52 PM

Sounds good Ed,

The slogan for my brother in law is just between his sisters and I. We joke about it from time to time. At one time he sold roofs for a storm chasing outfit. He's also sold cars and now sells houses.

Sort of funny.

Roof Cleaning · 07-05-2008, 12:38 AM

I like the idea ED

Living In Hurricane Ravaged Florida, I saw first hand what rip off contractors did to Hurricane Victims.
Have you thought about asking a question for a Headline ?
I have had luck with it.
Perhaps something Like

Bad Roof ?
WHY Hire A Non Local Roofer ?
They will "give you a warranty"
When their tailights leave your driveway.
watch your "warranty" leave with them!

That would fit in with the rest of your text.
Just a thought from a bored roof cleaner ....

747 · 07-05-2008, 03:31 AM

WHAT IF I ALREADY SIGNED SOMETHING?

Unless their is a scope of work and an actual agreed upon dollar amount, it is really not an enforceable and binding contract, even if they tell you it is. Have you received the, "Consumers Right To Know" brochure from them when you signed the non-conditional agreement form? If not, then they have violated your Legal Rights and have broken the States Contracting Laws. Check with the Attorney Generals office or website and you will see it is the truth

Yes i signed something like that for my sisters roof. It was a pamplet from Lisa madigans office. He tore off the bottom and kept for his records. Basically a pamplet informing me of my rights with the Attorney general office. Example 3 days to cancel.

I think thats a great ideal you have above. I say go for it. The sooner the better.

RPortinga · 07-05-2008, 03:34 AM

I met with an adjuster Thursday... valley was damaged from hail storm last month - had to really search to find any shingle damage. We had done the roof a few years ago with Timberline... adjuster knew we wouldn't be able to match the shingles and wrote up to re-roof the entire house.

MJW · 07-05-2008, 09:59 AM

Not a bad idea Ed.

It's kinda funny in the storm damage area we are working in now. The bidding seems to have slowed to a stop. The only people left working in town seems to be us and a few latino crews that work only when it is 80 degrees plus. I saw one crew the other day (it was about 80 degrees and sunny), they were wearing black hooded sweatshirts with the hoods up!! I don't know if they are hiding or trying to cut weight.

It also seems like the adjusters are really holding up jobs. They have too much going.....miss things, forget things, head off on vacation.......it's just kind of a mess. Had one guy adjuster saying he was "bending over backwards" to meet the price of the Xactimate bid I made. He came within $1000, but still was low.
He payed ABC there full price, but not us for the roof. Said he was tired of us guys "ripping them off". Kinda acted like the money was coming out of his pocket!

MJW · 07-05-2008, 10:02 AM

Rportinga....it looks like you do commercial work. Why are you bidding us local guys' work? I don't even see a license number?? No offense, just asking.

RPortinga · 07-05-2008, 11:10 AM

Bauer Bros Construction started as a residential company, and has continued to do residential.

A high school buddy of the original "brothers" joined them a couple years back and started working on the commercial side of things, but they have continued to do residential work as well. This guy is someone I worked for a few years back when I first got in to construction. Then earlier this year they brought in another guy whose main focus is on the CM and development side of things... this is another guy I've worked with in the past. Shortly after that they started talking to me about coming over to help round out the staff a bit. I have a mostly commercial background, but have been managing a couple single family/townhome developments the last couple years.

By no license, I think you mean on the website? bauercompanies.com is our commercial site... it's geared specifically towards our commercial construction and development projects. I'm currently working on another site that will be specific to our residential work. It is in VERY early stages, but feel free to check it out at www.homesbybauer.com - there's nothing there as far as content... I've been working on the basic layout in order to turn it over to someone to start building the pages.

The storm stuff we're doing has been almost entirely for past customers and folks they are referring us to. Not that many even total, couple dozen or so. A few have been a result of some flyers and such from some canvasing done by one of our commercial sales people.

neolitic · 07-05-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed the Roofer

Using the STOP logo, with the circle and the Slash going through the words, "Storm Chasers".

Then here is an idea to toss out as a script:

Need to have your, Roofing, Siding, or Windows Replaced due to recent Hail Damage that blasted through our area?
Please, Go with a Local Contractor who has been serving these communities for nearly 25 Years.

WHY?

Because the Out Of State Storm Chasers will soon be gone , leaving YOU, The Home Owner holding The Bag for Long Term Warranty Issues that WILL Come Up.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Contact Ed The Roofers Roofing Company and have your Local Contractor handle the entire Claims Process for you.
We have Local, Knowledgeable and Experienced Crews who will Guarantee a first class job.
Unlike the Fly-By-Night Storm Chasing Contractors who knock on every door to see who is gullible enough to sign a blank form....which is actually an open ended contract.

Your Local Roofing Contractor, Ed The Roofers Company knows the insurance restoration process better than any of those knocking on your door with false claims of inside information and representing your best interests in the insurance claims process.

Ed The Roofers Company will NOT give you a "Blank" Contract Agreement with no dollar amounts listed to sign, but instead, will take the time necessary to provide you a comprehensive reliable On Site Analysis and Solution, based on Decades of knowledge and Experience.

What Else?

Ed The Roofer will provide you with a list of over 2,000 satisfied customers, from surrounding communities, where they have worked to please their customers over the past several decades. Also, if need be, we will provide you with other Local Roofing, Siding and Window Contractors Names if you would like. We know who the real Good Guys Are and Respect them and know they would provide a better service to you than any Storm Chaser would.

WHAT IF I ALREADY SIGNED SOMETHING?

Unless their is a scope of work and an actual agreed upon dollar amount, it is really not an enforceable and binding contract, even if they tell you it is. Have you received the, "Consumers Right To Know" brochure from them when you signed the non-conditional agreement form? If not, then they have violated your Legal Rights and have broken the States Contracting Laws. Check with the Attorney Generals office or website to confirm this.

Unethical CON-tractors who set themselves up to be Storm Chasing specialists who Prey On Unsuspecting Victims.
I have pages upon pages of information from extremely dissatisfied previous Storm Chaser Customers who will tell you what to look out for and what to expect.

Give us a call NOW. We will always be there for you....
as we have for our past several thousand local customers.

Ed

A little "touch-up"?

neolitic · 07-05-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed the Roofer

Using the STOP logo, with the circle and the Slash going through the words, "Storm Chasers".

Then here is an idea to toss out as a script:

Need to have your, Roofing, Siding, or Windows Replaced due to recent Hail Damage that blasted through our area?
Please, Go with a Local Contractor who has been serving these communities for nearly 25 Years.

WHY?

Because the Out Of State Storm Chasers will soon be gone , leaving YOU, The Home Owner holding The Bag for Long Term Warranty Issues that WILL Come Up.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Contact Ed The Roofers Roofing Company and have your Local Contractor handle the entire Claims Process for you.
We have Local, Knowledgeable, and Experienced Crews who will Guarantee a first class job.
Unlike the Fly-By-Night Storm Chasing Contractors who knock on every door to see who is gullible enough to sign a blank form....which is actually an open ended contract.

Your Local Roofing Contractor, Ed The Roofers Company knows the insurance restoration process better than any of those knocking on your door with false claims of inside information and representing your best interests in the insurance claims process.

Ed The Roofers Company will NOT give you a "Blank" Contract Agreement with no dollar amounts listed to sign, but instead, will take the time necessary to provide you a comprehensive, reliable On Site Analysis and Solution, based on Decades of knowledge and Experience.

What Else?

Ed The Roofer will provide you with a list of over 2,000 satisfied customers, from surrounding communities, where they have worked to please their customers over the past several decades. Also, if need be, we will provide you with Names of other Local Roofing, Siding and Window Contractors if you would like. We know who the real Good Guys Are and Respect them, knowing they would provide a better service to you than any Storm Chaser would.

WHAT IF I ALREADY SIGNED SOMETHING?

Unless there is a scope of work and an actual agreed upon dollar amount, it is really not an enforceable and binding contract, even if they tell you it is. Have you received the, "Consumers Right To Know" brochure from them when you signed the non-conditional agreement form? If not, then they have violated your Legal Rights and have broken the States Contracting Laws. Check with the Attorney Generals office or website to confirm this.

Unethical CON-tractors who set themselves up to be Storm Chasing specialists who Prey On Unsuspecting Victims.
I have pages upon pages of information from extremely dissatisfied previous Storm Chaser Customers who will tell you what to look out for and what to expect.

Give us a call NOW. We will always be there for you....
as we have for our past several thousand local customers.

Ed

A little "touch-up"?
I think that if you get too
hyper, you start to sound like
one of them.

mattp · 07-05-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neolitic

A little "touch-up"?
I think that if you get too
hyper, you start to sound like
one of them.

I agree sell yourself on how good you are not on how bad your compitition is .

RPortinga · 07-05-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattp

I agree sell yourself on how good you are not on how bad your compitition is .

ya know, that sums up what I was thinking, but couldn't put in to words.

I absolutely HATE the commercials for Dish and such that try to sell you based on how bad the Cable Companies are.

Tell me how GOOD you are, let me decide for myself how bad the other guy is in comparison.

Maybe the approach to take in this sort of situation isn't specifically going after "storm chasers", but point out the things to look for when hiring a reputable, local, contractor.

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-05-2008, 10:40 PM

Under normal advertising rationale, I would agree with you guys.

The problem, that all of the Stormers invade the neighborhood so quickly and dupe the people into committing to them with those blank agreements that many do not even realize that they are signing a contract.

I think the the information just may make them consider an alternative, which is to contract with a local contractor.

I could definitely add the freebie of my 10 point list as an incentive for calling in.

Ed

roofer1379 · 07-07-2008, 12:01 PM

Guys. I agree with your asessment that some storm chasers do poor quality work with no warranty, but this is not the case with all. To be honest I have seen double the amount of shoddy work done by the "local company just down the road" that " stormers". Typically local guys are slower and typically are out of business much faster than stormers leave town. Im an adjuster and have seen both good and bad of stormer and local companies. My question is who is gonna do the work when a big storm hits? Local companies have no clue how to handle a large influx of business and end up screwing it up of just stop taking new jobs 2 weeks into the storm. At that pace people that would use only local companies would be waiting years for repairs to begin at which time most "local boys" are out of business anyway. There are typically on or 2 good local companies in an area, the rest are typically bums that dont have apot to piss in and could not honor a warranty issue anyway.. This is my take, however unpopular it will be. I also roof and honor warranty issues wherever I have been. If I partner with a company we escrow money for warranty and I guarantee my crews will roof circles around 98% of you guys posting here all day everyday and no they aint cheap, but their good.

07-03-2008, 10:54 PM	#1
Ed the Roofer View Profile Ed the Roofer Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (7,135) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 7,135	STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Yesterday afternoon, we had a "Moderate" hail storm hit a few of the neighboring communities. When I was at my bank today, the Gal I normally speak to in the Customer Service department commented how she already had 2 different companies knocking on their door. I happened yesterday at around 5:00 P.M. So, I was wondering about doing my own mailing out to those neighborhoods? Using the STOP logo, with the circle and the Slash going through the words, "Storm Chasers". Then here is an idea to toss out as a script: Please feel free to add or subtract or make any other comment about the verbiage that you think would get to the point and make a more dramatic impact. When you Need to have your, Roofing, Siding, or Windows Replaced due to Storm Damage from our recent Hail Damage that blasted through our local area, Please, Go with a Local Contractor who has been serving these communities for nearly 25 Years. WHY? Because the Out Of State Storm Chasers will be gone in less than one year, leaving YOU, The Unwary Home Owner Holding The Bag for any Long Term Peace Of Mind Warranty Issues that WILL Come Up. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Contact Ed The Roofers Roofing Company and have your Local Contractor handle the entire Claims Process for you. We have Local. Knowledgeable and Experienced Crews which will Guarantee a much better job being done than by those Fly-By-Night Storm Chasing Contractors who wind up knocking on everyones doors to see who is gullible enough to sign a blank agreement form, which is actually an open ended contract. Your Local Roofing Contractor, Ed The Roofers Company knows the insurance restoration process better than any of the kids knocking on your door with falsely made up claims of grandeur for your insurance restoration projects. Ed The Roofers Company will NOT give you a "Blank" Contract Agreement with no dollar amounts listed to sign, but instead, will take the proper time necessary to provide you a comprehensive On Site Analysis and Solution, based on Decades worth of knowledge and Experience to rely on. What Else? Ed The Roofer will provide you with a list of over 2,000 satisfied customers, all from one of the surrounding communities, where they have worked to please their customers over the past several decades. Also, if need be, we will provide you with other Local Roofing, Siding and Window Contractors Names if you would like. We know who the real Good Guys Are and Respect them and know they would provide a better service to you than any Storm Chaser would. WHAT IF I ALREADY SIGNED SOMETHING? Unless their is a scope of work and an actual agreed upon dollar amount, it is really not an enforceable and binding contract, even if they tell you it is. Have you received the, "Consumers Right To Know" brochure from them when you signed the non-conditional agreement form? If not, then they have violated your Legal Rights and have broken the States Contracting Laws. Check with the Attorney Generals office or website and you will see it is the truth. Unethical CON-Tractors who set themselves up to be Storm Chasing Experts just Love To Prey On Their Unsuspecting Victims. I have pages upon pages of information from extremely dissatisfied previous Storm Chaser Customers who will tell you what to look out for and what to expect. Give us a call NOW. We will always be there for you, just like for the past several thousand local customers. Ed __________________ Please Stay Tuned For A Very Important Message From Our Sponsor http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

07-04-2008, 12:49 AM	#2
dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,400) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,400	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Looks good Ed and it looks like you will be one busy man! It's good and bad. Good because it will make for a good rest of the year and next year. Bad because a lot of roofs you could do 2-10 years from now will be done.

07-04-2008, 12:58 AM	#3
Ed the Roofer View Profile Ed the Roofer Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (7,135) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 7,135	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message But they will be done by that infestatious swarm known as Insurance Resoration Convicts, errrr, I mean CON-tractors, in short order soon anyways. I just want my piece of the PIE. No, I want all of the Pie. I was there first and I am going to make a fuss about it until I get my way. Ed __________________ Please Stay Tuned For A Very Important Message From Our Sponsor http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

07-04-2008, 10:26 AM	#4
dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,400) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,400	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Ed, I think the best way to stir up work will be going door to door. Go through all your old paperwork and figure a stragety that will keep you from running in circles. Even if there are new home owners in the houses that you roofed you can still tell them your company did the work X years ago and ask them if they have experiance any problems with the workmanship. At that time you can tell them, "My company did it right then and we can do it right again". You can also throw in there are better roofing products now than back then (if the shingles are showing signs of deffects). Print something out like you posted in your original post and explain it to them in person. Get a bunch of yard signs made and ask if you can put them in the home owners yard. Even if they are not ready to sign up to have the work done yet at least it will make the storm chasers go away. Just got an email from Xactimate explaining that the third quarter pricing just came out. Some shingles are up $20-30 per square. As a matter of fact most all the roofing line items are up from last quarter. Ice and water took a nice jump. Now you will be dealing with home owners that will be expecting you to cover their deductibles and even worse home owners that will be expecting you to also put money in their pocket. My Uncle had one that wanted to pay him $3,500 for labor while he put $5,000 in his pocket. Had a hail storm hit on a Sunday at 5pm a few weeks ago and within an hour there were storm chasers out and about. The storm chasers love weekends and evenings when the home owners have the garage doors opened. They figure it's an open invitation to bother them. BTW, how big of hail are we talking here?

07-04-2008, 11:45 AM	#5
Ed the Roofer View Profile Ed the Roofer Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (7,135) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 7,135	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Big enough to break windows, but not the size you posted. I didn't get the weather reports, but if you know how to look up a Current event, it is for area codes 60102, Algonquin Illinois and whatever Lake In The Hills, Illinois and Huntley, Illinois are. e-mail the weather link to me if you know one. I can look up the SPC and the daily reports, unofficial, but still reported list. Ed __________________ Please Stay Tuned For A Very Important Message From Our Sponsor http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

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07-04-2008, 12:23 PM	#6
dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,400) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,400	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Not sure how to look up the hail/weather report. What I like to do is jump up on white or very light colored roofs to gauge the extent of the hail. Got a call from my agent regarding his good friend who got denied a roof but got paid for valley flashing, facia, gutters, and one side of siding. The call came in about three weeks ago and shortly there after inspected the roof and found a few nice hits here and there but not enough to get 9 hits in the test square on two sides. Decided since the old Timberlines were no longer made it would warrant another adjusters opinion. Yesterday morning met with the adjuster and found hail hits all over the roof. It was an easy claim to write for the adjuster. Sad thing is this will be the third roof on the three year old house... Ed, gonna PM you some information on what you gave me. My brother in law has opened a contractor business. My wife and her sister came up with his slogan, Heavy on the Con Light on the Contract. Last edited by dougger222; 07-04-2008 at 12:31 PM.

07-04-2008, 01:21 PM	#7
Ed the Roofer View Profile Ed the Roofer Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (7,135) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 7,135	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message I don't like the heavy On the "Con" aspect. It implies deception. How about, XYZ CAN-Tractors" Yes, we CAN do it for your budget. Ed PS I will have to share the weather links with you for you to document hail storms that have been reported. Remind me next week when I get back from visiting my folks in Wisconsin. __________________ Please Stay Tuned For A Very Important Message From Our Sponsor http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

07-04-2008, 03:52 PM	#8
dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,400) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,400	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Sounds good Ed, The slogan for my brother in law is just between his sisters and I. We joke about it from time to time. At one time he sold roofs for a storm chasing outfit. He's also sold cars and now sells houses. Sort of funny.

07-05-2008, 12:38 AM	#9
Roof Cleaning View Profile Roof Cleaning Tampa Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (113) Photos (47) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Tampa Trade: Roof Cleaning Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tampa Posts: 113	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message I like the idea ED Living In Hurricane Ravaged Florida, I saw first hand what rip off contractors did to Hurricane Victims. Have you thought about asking a question for a Headline ? I have had luck with it. Perhaps something Like Bad Roof ? WHY Hire A Non Local Roofer ? They will "give you a warranty" When their tailights leave your driveway. watch your "warranty" leave with them! That would fit in with the rest of your text. Just a thought from a bored roof cleaner .... __________________ Apple Non Pressure Roof Cleaning Tampa Brandon Florida Roof Cleaning Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida 813 655 8777 Last edited by Roof Cleaning; 07-05-2008 at 12:41 AM.

07-05-2008, 03:31 AM	#10
747 View Profile 747 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,539) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Wood working in spare time. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kankakee county,Illinois Posts: 1,539	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message WHAT IF I ALREADY SIGNED SOMETHING? Unless their is a scope of work and an actual agreed upon dollar amount, it is really not an enforceable and binding contract, even if they tell you it is. Have you received the, "Consumers Right To Know" brochure from them when you signed the non-conditional agreement form? If not, then they have violated your Legal Rights and have broken the States Contracting Laws. Check with the Attorney Generals office or website and you will see it is the truth Yes i signed something like that for my sisters roof. It was a pamplet from Lisa madigans office. He tore off the bottom and kept for his records. Basically a pamplet informing me of my rights with the Attorney general office. Example 3 days to cancel. I think thats a great ideal you have above. I say go for it. The sooner the better.

07-05-2008, 03:34 AM	#11
RPortinga View Profile RPortinga Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (134) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: General Contractor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 134	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message I met with an adjuster Thursday... valley was damaged from hail storm last month - had to really search to find any shingle damage. We had done the roof a few years ago with Timberline... adjuster knew we wouldn't be able to match the shingles and wrote up to re-roof the entire house. __________________ Rob Portinga - Bauer Bros. Construction, Inc. Design/Build - General Contractor - Construction Management

07-05-2008, 09:59 AM	#12
MJW View Profile MJW Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,830) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: General Contractor, Roofing, siding, windows Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,830	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Not a bad idea Ed. It's kinda funny in the storm damage area we are working in now. The bidding seems to have slowed to a stop. The only people left working in town seems to be us and a few latino crews that work only when it is 80 degrees plus. I saw one crew the other day (it was about 80 degrees and sunny), they were wearing black hooded sweatshirts with the hoods up!! I don't know if they are hiding or trying to cut weight. It also seems like the adjusters are really holding up jobs. They have too much going.....miss things, forget things, head off on vacation.......it's just kind of a mess. Had one guy adjuster saying he was "bending over backwards" to meet the price of the Xactimate bid I made. He came within $1000, but still was low. He payed ABC there full price, but not us for the roof. Said he was tired of us guys "ripping them off". Kinda acted like the money was coming out of his pocket!

07-05-2008, 10:02 AM	#13
MJW View Profile MJW Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,830) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: General Contractor, Roofing, siding, windows Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,830	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Rportinga....it looks like you do commercial work. Why are you bidding us local guys' work? I don't even see a license number?? No offense, just asking.

07-05-2008, 11:10 AM	#14
RPortinga View Profile RPortinga Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (134) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: General Contractor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 134	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Bauer Bros Construction started as a residential company, and has continued to do residential. A high school buddy of the original "brothers" joined them a couple years back and started working on the commercial side of things, but they have continued to do residential work as well. This guy is someone I worked for a few years back when I first got in to construction. Then earlier this year they brought in another guy whose main focus is on the CM and development side of things... this is another guy I've worked with in the past. Shortly after that they started talking to me about coming over to help round out the staff a bit. I have a mostly commercial background, but have been managing a couple single family/townhome developments the last couple years. By no license, I think you mean on the website? bauercompanies.com is our commercial site... it's geared specifically towards our commercial construction and development projects. I'm currently working on another site that will be specific to our residential work. It is in VERY early stages, but feel free to check it out at www.homesbybauer.com - there's nothing there as far as content... I've been working on the basic layout in order to turn it over to someone to start building the pages. The storm stuff we're doing has been almost entirely for past customers and folks they are referring us to. Not that many even total, couple dozen or so. A few have been a result of some flyers and such from some canvasing done by one of our commercial sales people. __________________ Rob Portinga - Bauer Bros. Construction, Inc. Design/Build - General Contractor - Construction Management

07-05-2008, 10:40 PM	#19
Ed the Roofer View Profile Ed the Roofer Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (7,135) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 7,135	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Under normal advertising rationale, I would agree with you guys. The problem, that all of the Stormers invade the neighborhood so quickly and dupe the people into committing to them with those blank agreements that many do not even realize that they are signing a contract. I think the the information just may make them consider an alternative, which is to contract with a local contractor. I could definitely add the freebie of my 10 point list as an incentive for calling in. Ed __________________ Please Stay Tuned For A Very Important Message From Our Sponsor http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

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07-07-2008, 12:01 PM	#20
roofer1379 View Profile roofer1379 Registered User Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Registered User Trade: Roofing siding gutter contractor Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	Re: STOP The Storm Chasers,...possible Flyer Or Postcard Message Guys. I agree with your asessment that some storm chasers do poor quality work with no warranty, but this is not the case with all. To be honest I have seen double the amount of shoddy work done by the "local company just down the road" that " stormers". Typically local guys are slower and typically are out of business much faster than stormers leave town. Im an adjuster and have seen both good and bad of stormer and local companies. My question is who is gonna do the work when a big storm hits? Local companies have no clue how to handle a large influx of business and end up screwing it up of just stop taking new jobs 2 weeks into the storm. At that pace people that would use only local companies would be waiting years for repairs to begin at which time most "local boys" are out of business anyway. There are typically on or 2 good local companies in an area, the rest are typically bums that dont have apot to piss in and could not honor a warranty issue anyway.. This is my take, however unpopular it will be. I also roof and honor warranty issues wherever I have been. If I partner with a company we escrow money for warranty and I guarantee my crews will roof circles around 98% of you guys posting here all day everyday and no they aint cheap, but their good.