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Trade: Siding, Windows, Seamless Gutters, Metal Roofing
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Some Nice Pictures
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20294541
We bid the siding and roof on this house someone else did the roof for half our price, and we did the siding. Water is now pouring in all over the house. Im thinking a whole new roof here, there are exposed nails everywhere along both sides of the ridge. and they are scattered all over the field
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DGR,IABD
Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
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Location: Central PA
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
By looking at that skylight flashing, you'd have to ask yourself, "how could that not leak".
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Trade: Siding, Windows, Seamless Gutters, Metal Roofing
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
the siding looks good though right?
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry, as bad as it is for the homeowner its a real ego booster for me every time these things happen this is the 3rd time in two months we have been called back by a homeowner that decided to go with another company for the roof
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Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
The exposed nails won't leak....
for a while. Whoever, needs to concentrate on documenting the flashing, valleys, and penetrations. From what I can see, and their total inability to even place nails, those details are where the immediate problems are. Yes, tear-off and re-roof is the cure. Surely the lawyers can't be far away.
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Trade: Roofing and Architectural Metals
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Ummm, wow???
As usual, you get what you pay for. Lemme guess, HO can't find the contractor? Don't feel sorry for them though. Tell em now you can add 200/sq to your original price to tear it off and you'll do it right. |
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Appears the contractor was a "buddy" that "does that kinda stuff on the side" I jokingly told the HO that our price would be slightly less since its now only a one layer tear off!!!! However shingles costs have skyrocketed since
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Every time this happens, we get the small solace that the owner regretted their decision. Unfortunately, this doesn't put cash in our pockets.
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Well, they got what they paid for. Half-price on the roof and only 1/2 of it leaks. The half they paid for is fine. What's the problem?
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Trade: Construction and Remodeling
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Wow! is all I can say about that roof, espessially the flashings! I love to see stuff like this though, the HO got what he paid for. Hopefully he realizes it! The siding looks good as usual though Patrick
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Trade: Specializing in residential remodeling
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Siding looks top-notch...can't say the same thing about the roofing work
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Trade: Wood working in spare time.
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Yes the siding looks great. What is that color called. It doesn't look like a certainteed color.
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Trade: General Contractor, Roofing, siding, windows
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Same crap happens around here all the time, especially with the storm jobbers, weekend warriors, and scab workers. It's funny how the union guys turn into the scabs on the weekends when you have a storm.
Goes both ways though. I have pics from a job we did that ABC did the seamless siding. They used no J-channel where the wall met the roof over the flashing. They made a continuous flashing under the siding, on the roof and just caulked all of it down. What a stinkin' mess they had. Sometimes the homeowner gets what they deserve and I hope it gets passed around quickly that they hired the wrong (cheapest) guy. |
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
It never seems to do any good though. I recently did a job for a customer at a price that was twice the rate he was previously charged for the same job, but had ripped the work down because it "looked like crap". However, when he saw my estimate for another job come in 50% higher than his expectation based on his budget(which he previously refused to disclose) he said he would need to get other estimates....go figure.
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Trade: Siding, Metal Roofs, and Beer Drinking PRO
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
maybe Ive done too many metal roofs but shouldnt the lower 1/2 of the roof jack be ontop of the lower coarses of shingles?
Other then that it looks like good tweaker work. Siding looks good tho |
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Trade: Building and Remodeling
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Hey...caulking comes in ALL sizes....
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Trade: Custom Carpentry Services
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
That is priceless, or should I 2x pricier now! At least.... not sure what I could say. Nice siding work Sir!
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Re: Some Nice PicturesQuote:
Nice siding job though!
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Love it!
That's one of those that after you land it, you're tempted to turn into a "project profile" - it would read something like: Customer got bids Customer picked lowest bidder from tweaker in 12 year old, unmarked, rusting pickup (with beer cans in the back). Customer paid for the materials at roof supply yard himself Customer replaced two Pirellis on his Benz as tweaker didn't see the 3 rusty nails after tear off Customer's driveway scratched by dumpster Customer's son found nails in the rear yard ... by stepping on them. Customer called back the roofer that the neighbor recommended (us) for repair work due to leaks & falling sheetrock; tweaker not found, and cell phone just goes to voicemail (because he's in the local jail, and no one has charged his cell phone - in evidence bag) Customer wants a repair - as 1/2 of the roof apparently doesn't leak. "Can't you just fix the small area that is leaking" aka ... don't you want a piece of the liability so I can sue you ... as you're actually reputable. That would make a great section on a website ...
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Trade: Thoroughbred Roofer
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Re: Some Nice Pictures
Nice!
How the fudge do guys like that get work?
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