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Old 04-09-2009, 10:08 PM   #1
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Are there any roofers out there that remove the homeowners gutters on tear-offs or have a good process of protecting them from ladder use and debris? This is always a concern of our homeowners and looking for some ideas from some of the more experienced roofers here. Thanks!
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Heres one good idea http://www.bilginroofdock.com/. There are many other ways to protect gutters.We usually try to rest our ladders on the gable ends(if any).Also this http://www.egutter.com/s.nl/it.A/id.1330/.f. we also use bars that attach to the sides of your ladder and rest on the roof.Just a few ideas.

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By the way, if you are a member of The National Roofing Group, Bill from BilGin will give you a substantial discount when ordering the product.

I spoke with him too and he was a really decent guy to get to know.

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I saw the items that Ed and John are talking about in the NRG and am most likely gonna by a couple of those items this year.

Right now we are still doing what we always have, if we have to set up on gutters.
We tape a piece of foam, the layered foam strips used in furniture, not a cusion but the thin layer strips, tape it to the ladder where contact will be made, than make sure there is a gutter fastener centered in between our ladder, thats the strongest point of the gutter and least likely to smash inward.

On the roof we simply nail a 2x4 across the bottom edge and leave it until everything is torn off and swept up than remove it.
We have one guy constantly cleaning for every two guys who are constantly hauling as 1,2,3, others guys are ripping.

I have never dropped the gutters and have never had an issue of damaged gutters during a job.

Edited to add: I have never dropped the gutters for the above mentioned reasons.
We have replaced gutters before, and we have had to drop gutters so we could install new eave flashings.
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That is a cool product! i want one
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Ladder standoffs extended to the roof....and slide some shingles under the first row of existing shingles draped over the gutter.
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I have used a 2x6 or 2x8 nailed to the roof sheeting that extends out just past the gutter for your ladder to lean on. They work good until you start putting the new shingles on and need to remove the 2x. Those brackets look interesting, might have to check that out.
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Ladder Doc I bought at ABC Supply around $30.00

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That is the one that we currently use and like also and it comes in a 5" and a 6" gutter profile size too.

But, after talking with Bill of www.BilGinRoofDock.com I really felt that he was onto something, by offering to leave a mounted bracket at the customers home you just got done working on.

So, add about $40.00 to $50.00 to the job cost or as an after the job extra if they agree.

It may very well save their life when they go up on their own roof to clean out gutters or other foolish things that home owners do themselves.

I would bet that every one of us has at least read one or more stories about a home owner getting crippled or dead from a fall from their ladder.

That would make a good amount of goodwill gesture PR for your company and could probably even be worthy of some local PR for free as the roofing contractor concerned about their customers safety.

Didn't Mike Finley use to offer free grab bars for bathrooms, particularly for the elderly and the handi-capped?

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That is the one that we currently use and like also and it comes in a 5" and a 6" gutter profile size too.

But, after talking with Bill of www.BilGinRoofDock.com I really felt that he was onto something, by offering to leave a mounted bracket at the customers home you just got done working on.

So, add about $40.00 to $50.00 to the job cost or as an after the job extra if they agree.

It may very well save their life when they go up on their own roof to clean out gutters or other foolish things that home owners do themselves.

I would bet that every one of us has at least read one or more stories about a home owner getting crippled or dead from a fall from their ladder.

That would make a good amount of goodwill gesture PR for your company and could probably even be worthy of some local PR for free as the roofing contractor concerned about their customers safety.

Didn't Mike Finley use to offer free grab bars for bathrooms, particularly for the elderly and the handi-capped?

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I really like the Bilgin roof dock and will contact him to see if he will ship me one, but im not sure if i would sell or install one for a customer because it will give them a false sence of sercurity for getting up on there roof!
Yes i know they will probably get up there any way and will this product fitted they will at lease be safe from ladder slide but if any one should be going up there i would rather it be me.
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I always hang a tarp from the lower course of roof so I can protect any landscaping. Usually I roll the tarp in a piece of 5/4 cleat to add strength then pull the tarp tight with a couple of bundles on the ground.
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I really like the Bilgin roof dock and will contact him to see if he will ship me one, but im not sure if i would sell or install one for a customer because it will give them a false sence of sercurity for getting up on there roof!
Yes i know they will probably get up there any way and will this product fitted they will at lease be safe from ladder slide but if any one should be going up there i would rather it be me.
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Order it through the NRG, National Roofing Group Forum and you will get about a 40% discount. If you need a link, just Google The Roofing Channel and you will find all sorts of united sites to the forum.

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I'm not a roofer per say but I have worked on many roofs. We like to pop a 2x4 block into the 4 inch gutters to prevent them from crushing.
It seems to fit pretty well inside. Most of th tearoffs I have done the guttrs are not in great shape and I consider a few scrapes/scratches to be ok.We do however drape tarps down to protect the siding and any landscaping from damage.
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I always hang a tarp from the lower course of roof so I can protect any landscaping. Usually I roll the tarp in a piece of 5/4 cleat to add strength then pull the tarp tight with a couple of bundles on the ground.
That is what i do too plus I use ladder standoffs for all my ladders.
We've never had any problems.

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