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Old 08-10-2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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Do you know of any good roof estimating software?

I'm looking for something that will automatically total up a list of materials based on entering the dimensions of each roof section.

Do you use on or offline?

What is the cost?
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:08 PM   #2
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Re: Roof Estimating Software


Sounds like Sketch in Xactimate.

It's very nice but not cheap. $250 to join and $125 a month. Have had it for a few years now. You can use it offline but you need to download price lists once a month.

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look into contracker ez?
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look into contracker ez?
Iíve been using contracker ez for about 4 years now. I like it but I recently bought a new computer with window 7 and canít get it to work.

I have not been paying for support so they donít want to help me unless I pay for 4 years of support at $150 per year = $600. When I bought it the support was only $100 per year and I thought I would not need it.
Since they want to charge me so much I might as well shop for something better.

The version I have wonít allow me to edit the layout of the forms, for example they have it set up so that the header takes up about 3Ē at the top of the page so my material order always take 2 pages instead of 1.
The program is OK but I think they could have made more user friendly.

The guy that owns the company is not very user friendly, I think he is over charging me foe a little help. I guess he doesnít want referrals.

The program runs in Microsoft access. I can get the program installed but I canít get the updates to install. The original version was 3.0 and the update is version 3.4.

After I installed the updates it still says version 3.0 when I open the program and it canít read my data file. It is reading the stock data that came with the software.

Iíve been using the software with windows xp and the new computer has windows 7.
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Sounds like Sketch and Xactware is a little out of your price range.

There's got to be others out there.

For bid that are not insurance I either use Word or Socrates Media. Word came on my PC and S/M was only $30. With that program I can do estimates, work orders, work change orders, invoices, etc. There must be 15 different formats in it. For proposals though it takes two pages and I hate two page proposals. I like to cram everything on one page.

Have heard of some estimating software costing $5-600 but not sure if that's a one time fee or yearly.

Over the years have seen a few large contractors estimate and most of the them are very genaric with a list of items typed out and a line after them for how many they propose to use. They look more like insuarnce estimates than home owner estimates.
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Sounds like Sketch and Xactware is a little out of your price range.

There's got to be others out there.

For bid that are not insurance I either use Word or Socrates Media. Word came on my PC and S/M was only $30. With that program I can do estimates, work orders, work change orders, invoices, etc. There must be 15 different formats in it. For proposals though it takes two pages and I hate two page proposals. I like to cram everything on one page.

Have heard of some estimating software costing $5-600 but not sure if that's a one time fee or yearly.

Over the years have seen a few large contractors estimate and most of the them are very genaric with a list of items typed out and a line after them for how many they propose to use. They look more like insuarnce estimates than home owner estimates.
What I am looking for is something that will help me to save time calculating the quantities of labor and material and to produce a list of material that I can send to the supplier.

I am going to take the new computer to a geek to see if they can get the software installed. I think it has something to do with windows 7.

I think I paid about $1400 for Contracker EZ about 4 years ago. I think they want a $2600 now.
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You should take a look at PlanSwift it does just what you are looking for. Fast estimates, list of materials, prices. They have some great tools for roofing. There should still be a 14 free trial, you can download and see what you think.
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I have been using estimation pro software for about 2 months now and has really streamlined what i do with every roofing job. They are not web-based which is another reason why i use them. They have a web based CRM coming out soon that is going to be included in their cost. Month to month only too. I have used Surado for years which has been nice, but has required a lot of man hours to customize it. This CRM is already customized to the roofing industry. Has GeoEstimator import as well. Its been easy to use so far. Works with windows as well. I use it on my MAC currently. Give them a call.
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I tried installing Contracker EZ again and I got it to work.

Funny thing is it still says version 3.0 but it’s reading the data from version 3.4

It seems to be working fine, I hope it doesn’t turn into a problem.
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Read this to get some software to run in Win 7

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...nistrator.html
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Do you know of any good roof estimating software?

I'm looking for something that will automatically total up a list of materials based on entering the dimensions of each roof section.

Do you use on or offline?

What is the cost?
You really don't need a fancy schmatzy estimating program. All you need is Excel.

I wrote a spreadsheet program that will calculate my material list. It also will generate material Purchase Orders and Labor Work Orders.

Its not that hard to do if you have basic spreadsheet experience. The reason that it's not hard is because there really aren't a lot of steps in a roof job.

My program requires me to enter five numbers (same as Xactimate): 1) roof area to be removed 2) Roof Area to be installed (I always add 15% when I'm selling) 3) Total Ridge lengths 4)Total Hip Lengths 5)Total Valley Lengths.

After entering those numbers, it spits out all the numbers I need. I also have to manually enter the accessories (pipe jacks, vents, etc).

Of course, after you get the spreadsheet spitting out all of that, you'll realize that it's really easy to have it spit out the rest of the business needs such as: waivers of lien, gutter PO's, Fax to the suppliers, Invoice to the owners or insurance company, etc, etc, etc.

No, I will not share LOL. It's nothing personal but it is valuable company property.
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You really don't need a fancy schmatzy estimating program. All you need is Excel.

I wrote a spreadsheet program that will calculate my material list. It also will generate material Purchase Orders and Labor Work Orders.

Its not that hard to do if you have basic spreadsheet experience. The reason that it's not hard is because there really aren't a lot of steps in a roof job.

My program requires me to enter five numbers (same as Xactimate): 1) roof area to be removed 2) Roof Area to be installed (I always add 15% when I'm selling) 3) Total Ridge lengths 4)Total Hip Lengths 5)Total Valley Lengths.

After entering those numbers, it spits out all the numbers I need. I also have to manually enter the accessories (pipe jacks, vents, etc).

Of course, after you get the spreadsheet spitting out all of that, you'll realize that it's really easy to have it spit out the rest of the business needs such as: waivers of lien, gutter PO's, Fax to the suppliers, Invoice to the owners or insurance company, etc, etc, etc.

No, I will not share LOL. It's nothing personal but it is valuable company property.
I've done the same and have and will openly share with anyone... except you.
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I still don't trust any program to tell me what to charge for each job. Depends on what you are doing but every single job is slightly different than the last, some are two or three stories, too many variables that can be overlooked by a program with set pricing.

It might take me longer but I like doing proposals from scratch for each job. my expenses for each job change and I like to be in control of that.
if i started entering in fixed prices, i'd end up getting complacent about it and end up forgetting something in the long run.

Roofing jobs only have so many expenses associated it with that. and as one of my best friends if my roofer, I know how he prices. he still does each job from scratch and he does keep the same per Sq. cost, and ups that if it's steep, high, hard to get to, not boomable, etc.
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Mel,

You don't need to pay that much for the Xactimate program. I have been doing insurance resto work for over a decade and we have been use the Xactremodel version for over 4 yrs now. It is exactly the same program database except it has limited fire and water resto line items for the 'Servepro' types out there. The difference is simply it does not have the insurance adjuster bells and whistles such as depreciation, uploading files to carriers, etc. Things we don't use anyway. I pay $560 per year plus tax on a one time pay yearly. Roughly $50 bucks per month. Doug, I would check it out, it can save you about 1/2 the subscription cost.
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The reason I use a spreadsheet is so I can't forget. It's all right there, just fill in the blanks. I might forget the baby tins, maybe I forget a roll of coil, maybe I forget nails, etc... Sure small ticket items, but I don't want to eat them none the less. If all I have to do is fill in the blanks, there is no way I can forget to charge for anything.

As we discussed in the past about the difficulty factor, my spreadsheet incorporates that too. Since I was the one who created the spreadsheet custom for my business, I know it's accurate to our real world values. I too wouldn't trust a program that used someone elses pricing.

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I think the Excel spreadsheets work great up to point, then they can become cumbersome. PlanSwift will integrate with spreadsheets you plus gives the extras. It's a couple bucks more right off the bat but once you have it its yours for life, no more fees.

It's always been good to me,

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rooferPRO31
Interesting that there is a rooferPRO31 on roofing.com that is the owner of estimationpro software.
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The only time I use an est program for roofs is on an insurance claim. Granted, the majority of them are for me. I always run a material list and figure my direct costs when it comes time to contract regardless. The majority of our work is negotiated, so I guess I forget that sometimes on theses discussions. We rarely just hard bid a job but when we do, I have a base price with every imaginable line item and issue with the house that our salesmen have to charge. If they sell above that number, they get a very good cut out of the overage, if they sell below, they sell for free. The numbers are based on our experience and are out the door numbers for each line item. I don't give anything away on a roof so there is no 'square' bidding allowed. It's a simple one page calc sheet that has the drawing, HO info, claim info, and all the roof calc line items extended through to a cost. I can see on each salesman's sheet where he calc'd the base roof price at $12,200 but the contract was written for $13,900. Every single job is pre-capped so we can catch any mistakes prior to showing up and being short. All contracts are subject to management approval.
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I think the Excel spreadsheets work great up to point, then they can become cumbersome. PlanSwift will integrate with spreadsheets you plus gives the extras. It's a couple bucks more right off the bat but once you have it its yours for life, no more fees.

It's always been good to me,
I downloaded Planswift. It looks way too complicated for me.

I specialize in shingle roof replacement. I go out to the job and get the measurements. This software looks like it is set up to use with blueprints.

I make a hand drawn sketch of the job; I donít have blueprints to work with.

Planswift looks like it would take a hundred hours just to get it set up.

I donít see how I could it for a roof estimate.
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The only time I use an est program for roofs is on an insurance claim. Granted, the majority of them are for me. I always run a material list and figure my direct costs when it comes time to contract regardless. The majority of our work is negotiated, so I guess I forget that sometimes on theses discussions. We rarely just hard bid a job but when we do, I have a base price with every imaginable line item and issue with the house that our salesmen have to charge. If they sell above that number, they get a very good cut out of the overage, if they sell below, they sell for free. The numbers are based on our experience and are out the door numbers for each line item. I don't give anything away on a roof so there is no 'square' bidding allowed. It's a simple one page calc sheet that has the drawing, HO info, claim info, and all the roof calc line items extended through to a cost. I can see on each salesman's sheet where he calc'd the base roof price at $12,200 but the contract was written for $13,900. Every single job is pre-capped so we can catch any mistakes prior to showing up and being short. All contracts are subject to management approval.
What does "pre-capped" mean?

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