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Old 10-20-2006, 11:19 AM   #1
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Roof Design Help


Hi all,

I am trying to tie a roof into hip style roof and it just look doesn't right at all any suggestions would be appreciated.

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Hip_Roof_Ft_Top.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Hip_Roof_Left.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Hip_Roof_Plan.jpg

Thank you very much

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Old 10-20-2006, 09:27 PM   #2
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See attached. I couldn't make out all of your dimensions and I'm assuming that it's a single pitch (6/12 in this case) with a consistent plate height. But this should give you a better idea of your roof planes and eliminate that big flat spot you have pictured.

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Hello Joshua,

Thank you that looks great ! But I doubt I can talk my client into ripping their whole roof off and re doing it for a 17 x 16 addition.
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There is always overframing the existing to create the new ridge. Most truss companies won't touch putting trusses over an existing roof but could give you mono trusses for the addition that you could tie into with conventional framing.
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Joshua is accurate with his drawing,it is the only way to do it and have it look right.No need to tear the whole roof off,simply extend the back side up to meet the new ridge line and frame a small hip on the other end.You would probably want to reshingle the hip end you are enlarging but could just add a few course to the other sides.
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its amazing that joshua could even figure that out!
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Yes he did a great job !, but I was wondering if this may work and be a little more inexpensive to do

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Hip_Roof_with_Peak.jpg

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Yes he did a great job !, but I was wondering if this may work and be a little more inexpensive to do

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Hip_Roof_with_Peak.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Roof_Plan.jpg
In my opinion that would be more work with less desirable results!
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All those roof planes are ugly anyways.
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its amazing that joshua could even figure that out!
Well, I have to justify my income somehow.
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If it is new enough not to get new shingles....they shoulda thought about there space before they bought.
Just a suggestion, if the shingles are more than just a few years old, they should be redone anyways. They won't match and probably should be upgraded anyways.
Every one we have done got a new roof and/or siding on the whole house.

Maybe it isn't in the bid, but it should be considered always when being a GC.
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Yes he did a great job !, but I was wondering if this may work and be a little more inexpensive to do

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Hip_Roof_with_Peak.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/ac_nys/Roof_Plan.jpg

In all of your drawings, you end up with flat planes on top of your roof. Is this really what you want?

You can see in these latest pictures that the ridge line coming off the right side of the house does not line up with your existing. The gable on the front left of the new addition would be impossible with the walls as shown on your original picture. Are you angling the walls in to match?

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In all of your drawings, you end up with flat planes on top of your roof. Is this really what you want?

You can see in these latest pictures that the ridge line coming off the right side of the house does not line up with your existing. The gable on the front left of the new addition would be impossible with the walls as shown on your original picture. Are you angling the walls in to match?
Joshua, I was just rushing when I did some of them 3D drawings.
It's not really what I want its what the guy I am doing this for, actually his builder and since its been over a week and I am still unable to get a hold of him to ask how he plans to build it, there is nothing I can do and this guy is so ready to get this built.
All them drawings are the roof only, in the pic below I added in the floor plan. I also tried peaking it more and adding the rafters in, do the rafter directions even look right?
(also, I only contracted drawing it, not designing it, yet I am getting stuck at the moment doing just that, but since its a learning experience for me right now I am not griping too much)

http://www.geocities.com/charles_delape/Roof_Plan.jpg


Yes AaronB I agree, but there isn't much I can do about it.

Thanks
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