Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-25-2005, 02:33 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Chunkstyle's Avatar
 
Trade: remodeling
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 10

Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


hi guys

i'm planning to use grace ice & water shield on a re-roof i'm going to be doing soon, and have never used the stuff before. i searched old posts & learned a bit about how to install it, but am still wondering about one thing: after you've rolled it out & adhered it to the sheathing, how do you get out onto it to install either the shingles or roofing felt that you'll be putting over it without sticking to it or messing up the adhesive? (sorry if this is a really dumb question -- i've never even seen any of it out of the box) is that where this "ripcord" release paper tearing method comes in? like perhaps you can expose just sections of the adhesive at a time while working in that area (as opposed to the entire laid-out piece having its adhesive exposed at once)? can you walk on it when the paper is still on without messing it up?

does it come on the roll with release paper on both sides or just one side?

i live in west central michigan, and was figuring on doing 2 passes of it at the eave edges & maybe a pass up the valleys.

thanks!

drew j.

Chunkstyle is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 08-25-2005, 02:56 PM   #2
Pro
 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Trade: misc
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 190

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


Only one side is sticky, this side goes down. You can walk on it with no problems once it's applied.
Kevin is offline  
Old 08-25-2005, 05:08 PM   #3
Pro
 
bergenbldr's Avatar
 
Trade: builder remodelor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: northeast
Posts: 378

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


I never walk on this stuff until it has been nailed 16" o.c. one row down center one row on top.The adhesive can fail to stick in cold weather or if deck is wet or dusty .
bergenbldr is offline  
Old 08-25-2005, 06:01 PM   #4
Pro
 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Trade: misc
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 190

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


Quote:
Originally Posted by bergenbldr
I never walk on this stuff until it has been nailed 16" o.c. one row down center one row on top.The adhesive can fail to stick in cold weather or if deck is wet or dusty .

Sorry, I should have clarified. I ASSumed it would be nailed down.
Kevin is offline  
Old 08-25-2005, 09:04 PM   #5
Bah Humbug!
 
Grumpy's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing and Gutter Specialist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 8,574
Send a message via AIM to Grumpy

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


Check their website it has an installation video.

In regards to what Kevin has said, you are right BUT once it get wet it is slick. In regards to what Bergen said, it's true. Less than 50 degrees and you need to staple your ice shield like felt. It is normally not necessary to mechanically fasten (nail down) the ice shield in plus 50 tempratures.
Grumpy is offline  
Old 08-26-2005, 12:04 AM   #6
Pro
 
Teetorbilt's Avatar
 
Trade: Residential Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Jensen Beach, FL
Posts: 10,475

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


Grumpy, you never stated that before and you know where I live. I have never seen anyone do it here. Is this new? I will be doing a simple roof soon, 3-12 in 90*, final roof surface temps. could easily go past 130*. I need to secure it?
__________________
You can't solve you're problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems.

Albert Einstein
Teetorbilt is offline  
Old 08-26-2005, 12:17 AM   #7
Pro
 
Tom R's Avatar
 
Trade: Carpenter
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 6,484

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


He's just saying it doesn't stick well if it's cold outside.

Shouldn't pertain to you 'Jens-setters'!!
__________________
http://www.tr-built.com
Tom R is online now  
Old 08-26-2005, 07:36 AM   #8
Bah Humbug!
 
Grumpy's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing and Gutter Specialist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 8,574
Send a message via AIM to Grumpy

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


The hotter it is the stickier it is, and once it's set... it's set. Once I was installing a piece and the wind caught it and folded over my arm. I have a bald spot for week. OUCH! In your area you have no need to do anything other than stick it down.
Grumpy is offline  
Old 08-26-2005, 06:16 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Chunkstyle's Avatar
 
Trade: remodeling
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 10

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


any tips about laying it into the "v's" of the valleys & getting it tight enough into the "v" without it sticking down prematurely? i'd imagine you want it as tight as possible to the sheathing all the way into the "v" (as opposed to up a bit in the center of the valley, like you see on roll-roofed open valleys).

thanks!
Chunkstyle is offline  
Old 08-26-2005, 09:36 PM   #10
Pro
 
Donedat's Avatar
 
Trade: Hardwood Flooring
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 375
Send a message via MSN to Donedat

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


I used to roof in the Chicago area. Fun stuff to install. We never nailed it down. In the winter we used a product that could be torched down. In the summer, we used a product that was self-adhesive.

But, I'm just a floor guy who likes to dabble in the past.
Donedat is offline  
Old 09-07-2005, 09:43 AM   #11
Pro
 
jmorgan's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Park City, UT
Posts: 174

Re: Question About Installing Grace Ice/water Shield


Chunkstyle, Use the RipCord to get the material into the heart of the valleys. Having a helper in valleys is great!
Jim
jmorgan is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Basement Window Question gregt848 Windows, Siding and Doors 9 07-26-2006 06:29 PM
Grace Ice & Water Shield Teetorbilt Roofing 44 06-12-2006 11:57 AM
Installing Interior Doors Richie-C Carpentry 4 03-15-2006 05:48 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?