Quality Before Quanity

johnk

I never worry about how many square I can lay in a day,regardless if its shingles,torch-on,tpo,epdm,etc.As long as I am happy with the end result.I like leaving the job knowing I did the best job I can do and have confidence that I won't be called back.I also price my jobs accordingly.Sure you can go with the lowest estimate but you usually get what you pay for!!

2ndGen

I remember when I first learned to use a gun, yeah, I was fast, but I realized that just banging the gun down wasn't good enough. I had to aim too and it was difficult to develop that skill to consistantly nail in the right locations.

I had to slow myself down and learn how to work slow. But I didn't pass my first job without that lesson. It was frustrating at first, but naturally and instinctually, my skill level met my desire.

I've seen guys that shingle fast and don't place the nails in the right places.
A misplaced nail doesn't count. It's like placing no nail at all as far as I'm concerned.

Quality always before quantity.

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roofwiz74

if you don't have hammer time ,you don't know much about shingling.freeking gun happy rookies

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roofwiz74

my bad,I forget about you shinglers"roofers"

what would happen if you had to hand bang?hacks.

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roofwiz74

why would someone let you shingle ?find out you were fast but sucked? then get better?I smell it already.

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2ndGen

Define "hammer time"?

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roofwiz74

I don't even think about my job.I plug in my gun or fill my pouch climb the ladder do what needs to be done and that's it.how hard can it be.the directions are on the package.
quality is my main selling point.most "roofers"know nothing about a roof that won't leak without ice and water.I am a roofer,I don't need to flash everything with I&W.I can bend metal,cut a shingle,install a flashing.
Don't get me wrong it has it's place but roofs were done before it.Back when they did them right.what do you know about that?

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2ndGen

RW, I only speak two languages...Spanish and English.
You're going to have to pick one of those two in order for me to understand what you're trying to say.

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roofwiz74

sry brain is faster than mouth and fingers

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2ndGen

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MALCO.New.York

Hey Wiz....Have you not learned how to use the "edit" function yet???

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Slyfox

When most roofers "shinglers" talk about how fast they can install shingles they tend to only include the actual placing of shingle time and don't include set up, detail and break down time.

I had many guys and a couple gals apply for work stating how they could nail 2-3-4 squ per hour and not one was ever accurate on that,
i had one guy straight pissed off about my not believeing him so i took him out to a jobsite "new construction" and said ok, this is a Kensington model i do alot for Stanjim Homes and its 26 squ, 5/12, 60' of valley and roughly the same footage of wall, "mind you the underlayment was allready installed and the shingles are setting on the roof" so i pulled a compressor, hoses, gun and drip edge out of the van and made sure he had all he needed equipment and tool wise and told him i would be back in 8 hours to help him cap, install vents, cut valleys and clean up {he claimed he could nail 3 squ per hour, so 8 hours later he should have 24 squ nailed down, right?},
it turned out that just like everyone else i ever hired he could only do the 3 squ per hour if he had other roofers, laborers and helpers helping out with all the non shingling work.

If you include every thing involved with installing a roof such as,
different slopes, materials, weather conditions etc you find a good roofer/shingler installs an average of 4 bundles per hour rather than 2,3,4 squ per hour.

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Bill

Quality first. I stay busy 7 days a week 52 weeks a year, no lie (Exept for the recent nationwide slowdown) and I do not ever advertize on the net, newspapers, fliers, cards (Exept for when someone wants one, but I dont just go handing them out all over the place) I still remember a couple of jobs where I went in and told my helper that starting today his pay comes out my pocket (First started out) and he was trying to fly through the job. I told him no, just take your time because it would cost more money to have to come back and redo it.

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2ndGen

Yup.

Generally, I'd assign members of my crew tasks. I'd have one guy doing all the detail work (flashings, valleys, dormers, rakes, etc...) and another doing the field work (nothing but production shingling). Of course, with a laborer feeding them.

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My whole life has been about making that profession respectable."
Ken Hendricks
www.SolutionsRoofing.com