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Old 09-23-2017, 06:28 PM   #21
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Is there any situation where metal is not the ideal solution? I will need to replace my own roof in the next 5 years or so and I am not sure i am sold.

I also see a lot of variation in installation methods.
Yeah, if you don't like the look or want to spend the money. I put these on my house and they will last 50 years or better and at 150sq compared to 300-400+ for the materials I would take them all day over steel. They are also class 4 impact resistant
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:41 PM   #22
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I did a 30 square hangar in metal solo in a day (my profile pic). So there's that. They were popular in Alaska. Performed very well.
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while I really like metal roofs maintenance on walls that are above them like porch or rakes become a bit more difficult
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Yeah, if you don't like the look or want to spend the money. I put these on my house and they will last 50 years or better and at 150sq compared to 300-400+ for the materials I would take them all day over steel. They are also class 4 impact resistant


For your sake,I hope it works that way for you. I have known many guys who bought roofs with 30-40 expectancy's only to look for a landfill that will accept them after 15-20 yrs. I 'm sitting right next to a roofer buddy of mine right now as I type that has that issue going on right now on his own home.
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The author of this book is a acquaintance of mine.Wonder if he is on to something with his book.


https://www.amazon.com/Roofing-Ripof...+roof+shingles
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Yeah, if you don't like the look or want to spend the money. I put these on my house and they will last 50 years or better and at 150sq compared to 300-400+ for the materials I would take them all day over steel. They are also class 4 impact resistant


For your sake,I hope it works that way for you. I have known many guys who bought roofs with 30-40 expectancy's only to look for a landfill that will accept them after 15-20 yrs. I 'm sitting right next to a roofer buddy of mine right now as I type that has that issue going on right now on his own home.
I know a quality shingle when I install one. Almost every premature roof failure is due to inadequate ventilation.
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. Almost every premature roof failure is due to inadequate ventilation.



Well,the industry trend is slowly moving toward establishing the thermal boundary at the ceiling level and NOT venting the space above it. Either at the soffit or ridge. Will that mean more material going to landfills sooner ?
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The author of this book is a acquaintance of mine.Wonder if he is on to something with his book.


https://www.amazon.com/Roofing-Ripof...+roof+shingles
I'm inclined to buy that - have you read it?
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I'm inclined to buy that - have you read it?


No,but in a telephone conversation,he explained the gist of the message the book presents.
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Well,the industry trend is slowly moving toward establishing the thermal boundary at the ceiling level and NOT venting the space above it. Either at the soffit or ridge. Will that mean more material going to landfills sooner ?
Don't know. But a cold roof system allows for ventilation in this scenario.

What you describe is a hot roof. It can shorten shingle lifespan but usually only of the building envelope is not tight
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No,but in a telephone conversation,he explained the gist of the message the book presents.
Could you give us the just? I'm interested
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I will also order this book, looks like something I could read

I will say you obviously get what you pay for.

If a shingle cuts nice when it's 40 it is a junk shingle. (IKO, GAF, BP, all suck)

Landmarks rule the land here and I have never seen a problem with them that was not installation related. My new favorite is Malarkey. It took me all of 2 bundles to absolutely fall in love with them. I educate my customers and builders on what I like about them.....first and foremost (and I show them) is the reinforced nailing area, the superior granule embedment....you can feel it and there is literally a dozen loose granules in a bundles, and the newest bonus is that they now only make SBS modified impact resistant shingles.

I have also extensively looked up Malarkey and it is extremely hard to find anything bad written about them.

OC Durations are nice enough and I will install them is someone must have a certain color, they do have a couple nice, unique blends

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I will also order this book, looks like something I could read

I will say you obviously get what you pay for.

If a shingle cuts nice when it's 40 it is a junk shingle. (IKO, GAF, BP, all suck)

Landmarks rule the land here and I have never seen a problem with them that was not installation related. My new favorite is Malarkey. It took me all of 2 bundles to absolutely fall in love with them. I educate my customers and builders on what I like about them.....first and foremost (and I show them) is the reinforced nailing area, the superior granule embedment....you can feel it and there is literally a dozen loose granules in a bundles, and the newest bonus is that they now only make SBS modified impact resistant shingles.

I have also extensively looked up Malarkey and it is extremely hard to find anything bad written about them.

OC Durations are nice enough and I will install them is someone must have a certain color, they do have a couple nice, unique blends
How many metal roofs have you installed?
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How many metal roofs have you installed?
A couple-few. Why?
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A couple-few. Why?
Because of your stance on comp shingles.
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Because of your stance on comp shingles.
I'm not saying that steel is a bad product, it is a very good product. It has its place, I just don't think it's the only end all be all long term viable option. Any product is only as good as the installation. As long as a QUALITY shingle is installed and all variables are considered they last as they should.

Last year I tore off a 28 year old roof that was done with 20 year OC 3 tabs (they still had a couple bundles in the attic) the roof never leaked and lasted 8 years longer than advertised though they were starting to lose a lot of granules

My mom's husband wants steel when the time comes and I directed him at steel shakes.

I was simply defending my opinion that answered the question if it wasn't always the best option.

I think if someone doesn't want to spend the coin steel commands and isn't the fondest of it that a quality high end shingle will last longer than most people will have to honestly worry about it for half the cost.
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I'm not saying that steel is a bad product, it is a very good product. It has its place, I just don't think it's the only end all be all long term viable option. Any product is only as good as the installation. As long as a QUALITY shingle is installed and all variables are considered they last as they should.

Last year I tore off a 28 year old roof that was done with 20 year OC 3 tabs (they still had a couple bundles in the attic) the roof never leaked and lasted 8 years longer than advertised though they were starting to lose a lot of granules

My mom's husband wants steel when the time comes and I directed him at steel shakes.

I was simply defending my opinion that answered the question if it wasn't always the best option.

I think if someone doesn't want to spend the coin steel commands and isn't the fondest of it that a quality high end shingle will last longer than most people will have to honestly worry about it for half the cost.
Lately I have found that guys that install comp shingles seem to like them and not metal so much. I do know the only 50 year old roofs around here are all metal and any 50 year old shingle is covered in blue tarps or look like theses.
The one is a 40 to 50 year old metal roof.
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Lately I have found that guys that install comp shingles seem to like them and not metal so much. I do know the only 50 year old roofs around here are all metal and any 50 year old shingle is covered in blue tarps or look like theses.
The one is a 40 to 50 year old metal roof.
I would say the combination of sun, moisture, and trees have a lot to do with that and I can concede metal is Probably the best for that paradise you call home....nothing is worse for shingles than lots of close trees. Shingles have also come a long way from those roasted 3 tabs.
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I would say the combination of sun, moisture, and trees have a lot to do with that and I can concede metal is Probably the best for that paradise you call home....nothing is worse for shingles than lots of close trees. Shingles have also come a long way from those roasted 3 tabs.
We also get a lot of wind at times and storms. Here all the good roofer use stainless steel roofing nails for shingles. It's because of the salt air.
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Could you give us the just? I'm interested


Our conversation was not about roofs,however,when he mentioned that his book was coming out in a month or so,I had to ask.

He said things along the lines of manufactures changing the formula of asphalt shingles over the years. They were not the same as many moons ago. Should you read the book,you will see he is a big advocate of installing copper over the ridge cap. He claims his findings support the premise that the life cycle of the current shingles will be greatly extended if that measure is taken.
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Could you give us the just? I'm interested


Our conversation was not about roofs,however,when he mentioned that his book was coming out in a month or so,I had to ask.

He said things along the lines of manufactures changing the formula of asphalt shingles over the years. They were not the same as many moons ago. Should you read the book,you will see he is a big advocate of installing copper over the ridge cap. He claims his findings support the premise that the life cycle of the current shingles will be greatly extended if that measure is taken.
I ordered the book last night. I would agree that copper and zinc does help immensly in keeping algae and other organic growth away

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