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Look At This Roof...
I have a sub with 20+ years of experience installing roofs. In all that time, he has never installed a roof quite like this. I have been involved in many installations as well, but nothing like this either. Perhaps I'm making more out of it than I should. I thought I would post some pics here and see what you guys think. This is a pentagon shaped church with a domed roof. The dome is composed mostly of triangles intersecting to create the shape. Take a look at how the intersections come together. The look is somewhat like an inverted valley. The current roof just looks like it should leak (the way the sections come together). At least the current shingle is flat. I'll be installing a 50 year dimensional shingle. I think dimensional shingles would be more difficult to do than what's already installed (insuring no leaks), but that's what they want. I'm looking for any suggestions or comments. Is ice and water shield overkill if I have it installed along all these intersections. Is it even necessary.
I would appreciate any ideas or comments. Here's the link to the pics http://www.h4built.com/cumc.htm Last edited by WilliamH; 04-05-2008 at 07:12 PM. |
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Re: Look At This Roof...
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Re: Look At This Roof...
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Re: Look At This Roof...
If you are ever worried about any intersection,protrusion,etc,use the ice and water.Better safe than sorry!
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Re: Look At This Roof...
Only in a Church could you find a NIGHTMARE such as that!!!
Lots 'O luck!!!
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Re: Look At This Roof...
Are you trying to get your post count up?
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Re: Look At This Roof...Apparently!!!!! What he did was post the original and found out he could not post a link. He then made 14 and 15, then went back and edited his original and added the link!!!!! Pretty sneaky sis!
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Re: Look At This Roof...
I had to get to 15 posts before I could insert a link.
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Re: Look At This Roof...
The only thing I have to add is that you are quite the sharp one. Yes? It took me a day or so to figure out the extent of the edit feature!!!! And I AM rather sharp!
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Re: Look At This Roof...
1 note on that roof-Yuuuuck!!!Not only would I use ice and water,but I'd flash it,gum it,glue it and screw it,lick it and stick it
![]() Just kidding,hope you priced it high and got most of the money up front.Bring your chalkline
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Re: Look At This Roof...
That would be a good roof to do if you are hurting for work and need money to pay your mortgage. Seen a few roofs like those over the years. My dad bid one several year ago and figured the biggest section of roof was under a bundle. The roof needed more ridge than shingles! He turned it down.
Seen some were they ran ridge on the transitions and others were they overlapped the shingles a few inches chaulked lines and cut them. |
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Re: Look At This Roof...
Some 50 year shingles require open metal valleys ,did a job that was tear out all the valleys to install metal,to fix others roofers mistake.water actualy ran between shingles and because of design thickness caused leaks everywhere even with ice and water.
Lots of cap on that one.
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Re: Look At This Roof...
Looks straight forward enough. Similar to a regular dome. I over lap the ridges. On this one, http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/sho...8&file=764&s=0, just overlapped 3" each way. They went 3" one way and cut them off. It's just felted. Even has tears in the felt. Never been an issue when the roof is correct.
I put 50 year on my house and weaved the valleys. Only trick I know of there, is I lay my valley shingles flat on the roof in the sun beffore weaving. I don't use them straight from the bundle. No problems.
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Re: Look At This Roof...Quote:
I agree. looks pretty straight forward to me also. At least the roof surface isn't curved like a Islamic temple roof or a corner turret. If it was in my area I definitely would bid on it confident that others would be scared away. Last edited by A W Smith; 04-06-2008 at 10:44 PM. Reason: damn spell check is definitely being "Defiant" |
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Re: Look At This Roof...Quote:
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Re: Look At This Roof...
That looks like nothing but a money-maker.
I dont do a lot of shingles anymore, but for something like that, I would take the job. That roof looks to be properly done. I have seen them with custom bent metal at the transitions, but I didnt like the look of it. No cap needed on most of that.
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Re: Look At This Roof...
I agree that's money. No a lot of low ball competion for that one. They will want a roofer they trust and they will value their opinion. Someone mentioned getting the manufacturer involved and that's the right idea. If you don't know the regional rep for the manufacturer your distributor will. I also agree with the idea that a laminate is not right for that job. I would rather see a hatteras or slateline for the bend and overlap installation and the wind resistance. I always use winterguard liberally but the synthetic felt would be good also with this job applied with plastic caps. The issue with 50 year shingles in valleys is interesting. We do a cut lace valley with 50 year but also use metal with many of the ultra heavy weights as they are required by the manufacturer. With Certainteed 50 year it's the contractors call. Never run from your professional challenges-they are your profit potential if you've been around long enough to know what profit really is this is the time to earn some, Get some baby!!!!!!!!!!!
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