 |
08-03-2007, 09:23 PM
|
#1
|
|
Pro
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 6,764
|
Lack of Ventilation Warps Deck Sheathing
I have read some studies, especially by William Rose, which suggest that Zero Ventilation would be better than the heavily promoted 1/300 or 1/150 ventilation guidelines specified by the shingle manufacturers.
This home had ZERO ventilation, either intake or exhaust, (at least until we got done providing the solution), and the shingles were completely baked out and brittle as if they were 25-30 years old, even though the HO's best guess was around 12 years old at the time we intervened.
What factual technology documents do any of you have to prove that ventilation really is a neccessity and not a made up method for shingle manufacturers to rel;ease themselves from warranty liability.
Rose states that shingle color has much more to do with roof temperatures rather than the attic ventilation and concludes that the ventilation is of no merit.
By the way, we qwound up using the Smart Vent from DCI Products both as an intake vent and as an exhaust vent on this home. It was a minimal slope combination of different angled shed style box roofs attached to each other and had no actual ridges to vent.
I tried to upload some better more convincing photos showing the buckled decking, but the sizes were too large. How do I go about re-sizing them and submitting the better photos later on?
Ed
|
|
|
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury
or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!
Join the #1 Contractor Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
ContractorTalk.com - Are you a Professional Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for contractors to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your trade is you'll find that ContractorTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!
Join ContractorTalk.com - Click Here

|
08-04-2007, 09:26 AM
|
#2
|
|
Commercial Roofing
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois IL
Posts: 1,138
|
The presence of mold speaks for itself...vent the deck and reduce, if not eliminate this.
The first picture shows caved in decking, which I find to be from lack of spacing between the plywood, causing them to bind when they swell. Step on this spot, and it will be permanent, as you have found.
How are things, Ed?
__________________
www.roseroofing.net
Our Seamless Membrane Roofing Systems outperform. Our Seamless Spray Foam Roofing system pays for itself. Call for your free project analysis. 815-588-1401 All roofing maintenance and repair available.
|
|
|
08-04-2007, 10:28 AM
|
#3
|
|
Pro
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 6,764
|
Much healthier Aaron.
Thank you for asking.
Finally, this week I am feeling like I am getting my energy back and do not feel like I am ready to pass out just from standing up.
How do I go about resizing photos to fit into this forums attachments. My digital camera takes the pictures in too high of a resolution and I need to reduce the size, but not make them microscopic?
Ed
|
|
|
08-04-2007, 10:38 AM
|
#4
|
|
Pro
Trade:
General Contractor, Roofing, siding, windows
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: MN
Posts: 1,218
|
Use paint to reduce the size. Open with paint, click on image and then resize/skew. If it's a 5meg or bigger camera, reduce to about 30% and it should be fine.
You're right it's a ventilation problem. If anyone can't see that they should be in a different business.
I&W shield will do the same thing as we have seen before. It just bakes the shingles when it is on the southern facing roofs or roofs with alot of wide open sun.
|
|
|
08-04-2007, 10:54 AM
|
#5
|
|
Pro
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 6,764
|
Thanks MJW. I will try it if I can find it. Duh, I really don't know alot about computers and how to do more than the basics.
Aaron, also if I remember correctly, that job had 16" O.C. rafters, so clips should not have been required for such a minimal span.
Ed
Last edited by Ed the Roofer; 08-04-2007 at 04:53 PM.
|
|
|
08-04-2007, 04:33 PM
|
#6
|
|
Commercial Roofing
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois IL
Posts: 1,138
|
I still have always attributed that to lack of space between the sheets of decking.
__________________
www.roseroofing.net
Our Seamless Membrane Roofing Systems outperform. Our Seamless Spray Foam Roofing system pays for itself. Call for your free project analysis. 815-588-1401 All roofing maintenance and repair available.
|
|
|
08-04-2007, 04:56 PM
|
#7
|
|
Pro
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 6,764
|
Lack of space possibly.
Swelling would be the only reason to cause the deformations though.
Swelling is caused by moisture, ie; humidity not ventilated out.
The bottom line is that the lack of ventilation has caused the problems.
Right?
Ed
|
|
|
08-04-2007, 06:56 PM
|
#8
|
|
Commercial Roofing
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois IL
Posts: 1,138
|
Surely. Proper spacing would have eliminated the binding, though, in most situations.
__________________
www.roseroofing.net
Our Seamless Membrane Roofing Systems outperform. Our Seamless Spray Foam Roofing system pays for itself. Call for your free project analysis. 815-588-1401 All roofing maintenance and repair available.
|
|
|
08-05-2007, 07:33 PM
|
#9
|
|
Pro
Trade:
General Contractor, Roofing, siding, windows
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: MN
Posts: 1,218
|
IMO, you are both right, but if there was not a moisture problem then the buckling would not have happened. That is the point, right?....
|
|
|
08-05-2007, 08:22 PM
|
#10
|
|
Pro
Trade:
Roofer, Remodeler,
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Richmond, Va.
Posts: 1,910
|
Picasa2 for pictures. Even better is a FD camera. Sony has/had a great one for web pictures. High megapixel is good for prints, but not web content, unless you like editing all your pics.
|
|
|
08-06-2007, 09:37 AM
|
#11
|
|
Pro
Trade:
Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 6,764
|
What is an FD camera?
Ed
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|