Gods Gift To The Roofer

Glasshousebltr · 10-26-2005, 08:34 PM

Gentlemen, I pulled my rotting bones up on another roof today, only 8sq but felt like 50. Kinda makes ya realize why all the veteran roofers spend a lota time at the local watering hole.

Any how, every time I pull myself up on another roof I thank God in heaven for my swift sleek roofing nailer and it's uncanny ability to get me back down to flat ground quickly.

How about a clap for popping em down and getting in the truck.

Yee haa!

Bob

shopdust · 10-26-2005, 10:47 PM

Amen for a cold one ... Heard that in my former state of residence, work comp for roofers is now 100% of payroll? (California that is)
Pity I was a snob and never learned roof'n.

dougger222 · 10-28-2005, 11:20 PM

My father is getting close to 50 years old and has been a full time roofer since he was 18. If he's gotten drunk more than 10 times in the past 30 years I'd be amazed! He can still tear off and shingle right next to me, 30 squares put down in a day solo no problem for that old fart!!! His best of 48 squares in a day was 15 years ago though.

Tomorrow we are doing a tear off actually. He just finished a new roof while I just did two in four days both 35 sq's one 7/12 the other 8/12.

For some reason I can't even get to the many sold tear offs the new roofs keep pouring in. Lately a couple framers have been giving me ton of jobs. Guess it pays off doing top notch work after all!

Glasshousebltr · 10-29-2005, 09:10 AM

That's one tough fella you have for a Dad, a 30 sq one day solo gig would put me in the grave. 3 sq an hour is humping, to do that for ten hours?......... I'd fall out like a long distance runner on his last leg.

I know you love your Dad and I'll bet he's a hard nose and a half, however consider this. To lay three sq an hour solo, a fella would have to ladder, open, prep, and nail an average of a shingle in a little less than 20 seconds. To do 30 sq a day on trek of 10 hours constitutes an almost impossible, unbelievably painful day. I think that borders the human capability.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying just saying it would be hell without the benefit of an alcohol bath afterward.

Bob

dougger222 · 10-30-2005, 02:08 PM

I know what your saying Bob, 30 sq's a day is a lot of shingles. I usually hire a helper to bring the shingles to me and flip them to me one at a time. All I'm doing is cutting shingles and nailing down shingles once the house is papered in. Best solo though was a 38sq's IKO Cambridge on a hip roof 6/12 two miles away from my hobby farm.

Even at my young age after putting down 30+sq's I feel like going home and going right to bed. This past week was a pretty good week for laying shingles though. One helper (shingle tosser) all week Monday-Friday shingled in two 35sq new roofs and a 20 sq 9/12 garage. Then as I mentioned yesterday we tore off a 12 sq 4/12 garage and shingled it in 5 hours, with five people though. Now it's Sunday and I've finally got a day off! Next week starting Monday it's back to the new stuff, a very straight and simple 45 sq. 8/12 to start things off then Tuesday another fairly simple 35sq. 7/12 and there will be another new roof towards the end of the week. The new work is nice but really need to get time to do some tear offs. Not ready to start subbing out work since I like it when the roof is done right!

dougger222 · 10-30-2005, 02:09 PM

BTW, on all the new homes either the framers load the shingles on the peak or we meet the boom truck for roof top delivery. If I had to hump shingles up on new stuff I'd find a new career!!!

AaronB. · 10-31-2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dougger222

BTW, on all the new homes either the framers load the shingles on the peak or we meet the boom truck for roof top delivery. If I had to hump shingles up on new stuff I'd find a new career!!!

OR YOUD HAVE TO RAISE YOUR PRICES.

Grumpy · 10-31-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dougger222

BTW, on all the new homes either the framers load the shingles on the peak or we meet the boom truck for roof top delivery. If I had to hump shingles up on new stuff I'd find a new career!!!

Ladder-vator

dougger222 · 11-01-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

Ladder-vator

If the builder who called me today said he has a ladder-vator for his roof I would have laughed at him and said find another roofer! 12/12 1.5 story's on the front 3 story's on the back. Up and over on a 12/12 sure sounds like fun to me!!!

His regular roofer has family issues and needed the roof done ASAP, I gave him a high price which he took. He has a 50 ft boom for his Lull and a large basket which I can use so it should be pretty simple.

In my 10 years of roofing I don't even know what a ladder-vator looks like!!! All roofs for my builders are loaded with a fifty foot boom truck.

Grumpy · 11-02-2005, 09:22 AM

For saftey and orgazational reasons I prefer my roofs be ground stocked and loaded to the roof as necessary. I try to keep a minimum of material up on the roof.

I don't want to start this conversation again since we have it damned near monthly but to each his own. I prefer tear offs and you prefer new construction. I prefer ground drops and you prefer roof loading. It's obvious I like doing things the hard way, but I have reasons.

**Teetorbilt** · 11-02-2005, 09:48 AM

Speaking of roof loading, this is just an observation. Stacks of roofing tiles, loaded onto 5 different roofs stay put during a hurricane, the homes with completed roofs on either side lose field and ridge tiles. Hmmmmmm.

Glasshousebltr · 11-02-2005, 10:48 AM

Told ya roofing tears me up.

Bob

AaronB. · 11-02-2005, 12:43 PM

Are you left handed?

Glasshousebltr · 11-02-2005, 12:56 PM

Not really, but I have an unusual hammer that I have to keep warm.

Bob

Grumpy · 11-03-2005, 07:24 AM

Teetor depending on materials a shingle bundle will weigh 26x what a single shingle weighs. It's no suprise that an assembled roof would fail before a stocked pile of bundles will blow off.

**ProWallGuy** · 11-03-2005, 07:29 AM

Hey Bob, nice shirt. Aloha!

paroofer · 11-03-2005, 09:37 AM

Nice photo gallery Bob!

**Teetorbilt** · 11-03-2005, 11:00 PM

Would you really want this long haired, 60's throwback working on your house?

I Would! I'm thinking that next year I'm going up there for deer season. I have to meet this guy!

AaronB. · 11-04-2005, 08:35 AM

Bow hunting?

red_cedar · 11-04-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Glasshousebltr

Told ya roofing tears me up.

Bob

No wonder you are complaining, looks like you have your lunch next to where your laying material

10-26-2005, 08:34 PM	#1
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10-26-2005, 10:47 PM	#2
shopdust View Profile shopdust Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (199) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Cabinets millwork spec builder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 199	Re: Gods Gift To The Roofer Amen for a cold one ... Heard that in my former state of residence, work comp for roofers is now 100% of payroll? (California that is) Pity I was a snob and never learned roof'n.

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dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,393) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,393	Re: Gods Gift To The Roofer My father is getting close to 50 years old and has been a full time roofer since he was 18. If he's gotten drunk more than 10 times in the past 30 years I'd be amazed! He can still tear off and shingle right next to me, 30 squares put down in a day solo no problem for that old fart!!! His best of 48 squares in a day was 15 years ago though. Tomorrow we are doing a tear off actually. He just finished a new roof while I just did two in four days both 35 sq's one 7/12 the other 8/12. For some reason I can't even get to the many sold tear offs the new roofs keep pouring in. Lately a couple framers have been giving me ton of jobs. Guess it pays off doing top notch work after all!

10-29-2005, 09:10 AM	#4
Glasshousebltr View Profile Glasshousebltr Custom Builder Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (4,403) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Custom Builder Trade: From dirt to ridge vent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Central Illinois Posts: 4,403	Re: Gods Gift To The Roofer That's one tough fella you have for a Dad, a 30 sq one day solo gig would put me in the grave. 3 sq an hour is humping, to do that for ten hours?......... I'd fall out like a long distance runner on his last leg. I know you love your Dad and I'll bet he's a hard nose and a half, however consider this. To lay three sq an hour solo, a fella would have to ladder, open, prep, and nail an average of a shingle in a little less than 20 seconds. To do 30 sq a day on trek of 10 hours constitutes an almost impossible, unbelievably painful day. I think that borders the human capability. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying just saying it would be hell without the benefit of an alcohol bath afterward. Bob __________________ Bob Last edited by Glasshousebltr; 10-29-2005 at 10:33 AM.

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dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,393) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,393	Re: Gods Gift To The Roofer I know what your saying Bob, 30 sq's a day is a lot of shingles. I usually hire a helper to bring the shingles to me and flip them to me one at a time. All I'm doing is cutting shingles and nailing down shingles once the house is papered in. Best solo though was a 38sq's IKO Cambridge on a hip roof 6/12 two miles away from my hobby farm. Even at my young age after putting down 30+sq's I feel like going home and going right to bed. This past week was a pretty good week for laying shingles though. One helper (shingle tosser) all week Monday-Friday shingled in two 35sq new roofs and a 20 sq 9/12 garage. Then as I mentioned yesterday we tore off a 12 sq 4/12 garage and shingled it in 5 hours, with five people though. Now it's Sunday and I've finally got a day off! Next week starting Monday it's back to the new stuff, a very straight and simple 45 sq. 8/12 to start things off then Tuesday another fairly simple 35sq. 7/12 and there will be another new roof towards the end of the week. The new work is nice but really need to get time to do some tear offs. Not ready to start subbing out work since I like it when the roof is done right!

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10-30-2005, 02:09 PM	#6
dougger222 View Profile dougger222 Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (1,393) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: Roofing Contractor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stillwater Minnesota Posts: 1,393	Re: Gods Gift To The Roofer BTW, on all the new homes either the framers load the shingles on the peak or we meet the boom truck for roof top delivery. If I had to hump shingles up on new stuff I'd find a new career!!!

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