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Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
I need to ask others opinions on something. I have a chance to bid on a large roofing job. I have asked 2 other contractors to help me because it needs to be done nearly immediately. It's all two story. These guys want to bid this at 450 a square. The one advantage we have is we could start next week if necessay. I'm pretty certain this is too high and they are just trying to rape these poeple to hit a big payday before winter so they can sit on the hindquarters. I think I'm going to have to just flat out try to bid against them.
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Trade: Exterior Remodeling.
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
So what is it exactly that you want our opinion on?
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
He asked 2 other contractors for help and I think wants us to let him know what he thinks about going behind they're backs and bidding the job solo (after finding out what they want to charge).
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
I do it all the time but, on my terms not their's.
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other ContractorsQuote:
What does the scope of work consist of that $450 sounds too high. Simple tear off and redo? How many layers ? Straight gable or valleys? .
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
If you can handle it yourself in the timely manner the client needs, why did you feel the need to ask for help from these other contractors?
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Trade: Siding, Windows, Seamless Gutters, Metal Roofing
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
look at his trade listing
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
I saw that, but since remodeling is included, it encompasses several fields.
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
Newbie,
Could just be a creative way of posing " how much"should I charge. Been on a couple of hours and hasn't replied,so I'm going to guess recently unemployed!
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other ContractorsQuote:
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Trade: Siding, Windows, Seamless Gutters, Metal Roofing
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
Im gonna start helpin these guys and go around here saying fivefitty
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
450 may be high or it may be low. He didn't say what he was doing. Is it a simpe R&R, does he have to resheath? Terrain around the house plays role also where and how close can a dumpster be placed.
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
You are not a roofer, but you are a painting contractor. Perhaps leave the roofing to the licensed and properly insured professionals. What makes yout hink $450 is not enough? There is nothing wrong with making profit, never forget that. Don't forget Roofers don't get the luxury of roofing during winter so we have to make 12 months earnings in 10 months, and we work HARD for it. Also don't forget that roofing INSURANCE is about 5 times higher than painting insurance.
$450 could be high, or not high enough depending on the size of the job, and scope of work. How did the other guys arrive at this number? What is the customer's budget for this job? What are the competitors bidding? This is all information you need to know when bidding ANY job, regardless of trade. Oh Oh Oh me t'inks "T'ree Fiddy is mo'e like it! DOh! RS beat me to it. |
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Trade: Exterior Remodeling.
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
What material is being installed? Are we assuming asphalt shingles? What if its metal or a wood system?
A lot of how much questions are really simple to answer. How much to pay your materials, labor and overhead + How much do you want to personally make + Is it a fair enough amount that people will actually contract with you = Your Price. ( I think that covers it.) Is charging 700 a sq too much if someone actually pays it? |
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Trade: seamless gutters
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
I don't see why everyone actually takes their precious time to answer theses posts? You wont talk any sense into theses people and half never even come back. Just ignore them!
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
cut throat
Last edited by CSinc.; 11-13-2009 at 10:20 PM. |
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Re: Doing A Roofing Job With Other Contractors
i think that he mostly need someone who has the expertise and crew to get a big nasty pig of a house done from start to finish.at 450 id have to say that includes a new deck.to me 450 is reasonable on a pig.roofing sucks cause its filthy and its heavy and its hard.add all of those factors together then add 19' and a unwalkable roof to me that equals dangerous.so 450 is reasonable.stick to painting and if your buddy gets the job maybe he'll be nice and give you a "finders fee".
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