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Old 07-20-2006, 02:04 AM   #1
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Current Square Price


Does anyone know the current Installation Cost for Roofing by the Square? Or current Shingle installation pricing?
using Typical 30 TimberL. Shingle
Adding a Shingle Rip Off, Single Layer
Coverage about 20 Squares
Received 2 quotes and seemed way, way out there.
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:49 AM   #2
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my roofer is charging me between 300-350 a sq if there is tear off and replace, depending on whether it's 3 tab or dimensionals.
we are in NJ, so it might sound high but people pay those prices all day long here.
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Timberline 30's go for $125 installed here, so I hear. I refer all shingle jobs and that is the last figure I heard last spring.
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If the 2 quotes are near to each other in price, then what makes the quotes "way out there"? What are you comparing these prices to? When was the last time you replaced a roof (hired a roofer)?

Pricing is always regional so my prices may mean nothing to your situation. 20 squeares does not equal 20 suwares. What I mean is, is your roof steep? How many layers come off? How close are your neighbors? How much landscape protection am I going to need to setup? Can I place my dumpster right next to the house or will it be in the street 50' away? Are there lots of dormers, valleys, flashings? How tall is it?

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Grumpy makes some good points.
Just for shingles alone I might charge anywhere from $100 to $200 a square. For ice shield alone $1.75 to $3 a linear foot. Felt 30-60 a square. Valleys, dormers, venting, step flashing, chimneys, all add to the price as Grumpy point out.
Prize winning rose bushs and Japanese Maple trees in the line of fire get expensive...
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Pools can be a challenge too!

There are too many variables to have a set price for tear offs or new roofs.
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Prize winning rose bushs and Japanese Maple trees in the line of fire get expensive...
Thats funny one of my grunts just tossed a full bundle(wich is against my ruls and a big NO NO) on a Japanese Maple he didnt like the 130.00$ replacement he had to buy HA!
But yes everything makes a differance you cant just say i have 20Sq single tear and 30 year tims. how much is that going to be there is a lot of factors involved that you need to be on the sight to see to bid the job right and fair
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I believe the US department of Labor strictly forbids requiring your employees to pay for damages of any kind incurred while on the clock/at the worksite. You may have committed a crime by making him pay for that.
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AaronB, are you a contractor or a lawyer? I'm sure he's not the first contractor that has taken out of someones pay, for something that got broken or damaged.
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According to my research Aaron is correct. Ahhh the beauty of subs.

Yeah I am sure he's not the first but that doesn't make it legal. If he knew the law he'd have your ass busted.

I am not saying I agree with the law... it sucks we as owners have to foot ALL the risk, but that's why we should also have a big reward. Anyways I think it's a Bull crap law, but it's still a law.
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I believe the US department of Labor strictly forbids requiring your employees to pay for damages of any kind incurred while on the clock/at the worksite. You may have committed a crime by making him pay for that.
Absolutely correct....if an employee makes a mistake and costs you money, that is tough cookies.....and i think it is a good thing....can you imagine how many shady contractors would find ways to screw laborers over to keep their paychecks?

The largest factors that dictate increases in roofing labor is height, pitch, cuts, access. If my guys have to safety line the entire time they are on the roof, production is half or less, and the customer pays.
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I think its a good law. I think we have to educate our employees as well as our customers.

Get rid of those that do the damage. If theyre valualble to you, you wont get rid of them. If they are continually causing damages, their value to the company declines.
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AaronB, are you a contractor or a lawyer? I'm sure he's not the first contractor that has taken out of someones pay, for something that got broken or damaged.
LOL. Do you have to be a lawyer to know what laws pertain to you? I think we should all know the Laws related to our business. I do not know all of them, but when I have a queation, I go to the lawyer.

I am sure hes not the first to break this law, also. Does not make it right, legal, ethical, or upstanding.

Have you done this too?
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Grumpy, I see your point about using subs...if they break it, they can be held responsible if it is stated in your sub-contractor agreement.

As an occasional sub, I have to know where to draw the line. One Contractor I worked for sold a job to re-nail some fascia cladding, and I refused that part off the work because the nailing of the cladding would have resulted in a damaged cladding. This damage could have fallen on me if the contractor had had a sub-contractor agreement and it was stated as such.

Even though we had no sub agreement, I let said contractor beat up the metal on his own, to avoid the hassles I foresaw if I were to have touched it.

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As an occasional sub, I have to know where to draw the line. One Contractor I worked for sold a job to re-nail some fascia cladding, and I refused that part off the work because the nailing of the cladding would have resulted in a damaged cladding. This damage could have fallen on me if the contractor had had a sub-contractor agreement and it was stated as such.

Even though we had no sub agreement, I let said contractor beat up the metal on his own, to avoid the hassles I foresaw if I were to have touched it.

Hows tha baby?
...and I bet the contractor wasn't mad at you either. It's always a good thing to have standards in your life regardless of your position as sub, general, or employee.

Baby is great, poor girl looks just like me She's a happy and healthy baby and I can't ask for anything other than that.
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Well its not that i make them pay for the stuff. All my crews follow my rule of never throughing anyting off the roof (its a good rule). And its kinda a said thing among my guys that if they breake something by being stupid that they are all men and they'll reap the beniffits from there stupid mistakes so they really volenteer to pay for it at there own speed. I never tell them you have to replace this because you broke it.
But some of the new guys i think belive that i make them i'll have to stress that it's there choice asresposible men
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Thank you everyone for the replies.

Quotes are 10K and about 12K. 2 dormers, with about 4 on 12 pitch, pretty flat. (They make large rooms in the attic.) Then whats left in back/front dormers are about 6 on 12 about 2-3 feet wide.
There would be flashing along dormers and ice shield.
No landscaping. Neighbors are about 4 feet away, residential area. Saw another house get done, they're not tarping the neighbors houses. (this roofer cam e over stood in front of house only, 5 minutes later, 10K)
Dumpster goes in front of house, unless he trucks it away -typ. sidewalk. Northern NJ.
I was thinking job along 6-7K. (Materials 2K, Labor/Carting 4-5K)
Thanks Again for your time and help.

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mATERIAL IS COMMONLY A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF A project price, especially when using a roofing expert/specialist/ exclusive trade rather than a handyman type of jack of all trades. The legitimate roofer will be more costly to insure, and the better man for the job, generally speaking.
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where again are you located? city and state.
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where again are you located? city and state.

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Northern NJ.



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