Chimney Counter Flashing... Mason Or Roofer?

dennis

lee,

I agree.

I can remember waiting on "tinners" to install valley flashings and crickets before we could start laying shingles.

AaronB.

And even when we ARE well equipped, the lowball mentality of most homeowners does not allow for it in the scope of work... we then are forced to use cheapo aluminum...

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bmaurice

lead>aluminum

Grumpy

Cut the reglet in the stucco, unless the stucco is really bad, then we write a line "stucco repair by others" and tell the customer to expect mucho stucco repair.

Grumpy

What kind of plumbling, electrican and carpentry joint union is there that also does roofing repair work?

Grumpy

Aluminum is OK because it will last as long as the shingles, and since I think we agree it should be replaced when the shingles are replaced, lead is over kill. In other words aluminum is perfectly matched for the longevity of asphalt shingles. IMO using lead flashings on a chimney or wall flashing equates to using copper or stainless nails on an asphalt shingle roof. Lead would be great on a slate or tile roof however.

bmaurice

I like the look a lot better, and if your carefull with the lead you can easily get the step flashing out and youroff and running. ive used aluminum once for counter flashing, its so much harder to install then lead. bending it right, sealing it, and geting it tight in your joints.

English Roofer

We mainly use lead over this side of the pond,(99% of the time) I agree with Grumpy that lead looks best on a slate or tiled roof,i have used copper and aliuminuim but very rare on flashings.
I always price to replace chimney flashings as its false econimy not too.
We call the flashings at the front(bottom) of the chimney a front apron, the side flashing is called a step Flashing and if there needs to be lead at the top its called a back gutter.
Cheers Dave

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oldfrt

I won't disturb the old flashing if it's copper and still embedded in good mortar joints.
Just use pieces of new copper step.
Otherwise I use the lead.
Fill a bucket with a few simple tools,cut it,bend it,slip it in newly cut kirf,,tap into place,fasten flatten,seal.
It's very forgivening material.
No need to go up and down a ladder to use brake or correct errors in bends.

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NormW

I like the sound of lead, My metal bending skills are rudimentary at best. Only problem with lead, Cheepo Depo is the only place that sells it that I know of, any they only sell $250.00 rolls... Next time I do a roof with a chimney, I ll take the plunge. After that, I should be set for the next 20 or so chimneys. At the rate I do roofs, probably last me 5 years. So long as it doesn t end up at the bottom of the pile in the forgotten corner of the barn...

WNYcarpenter

IMO, any good roofing company should be capable of a clean counter install....unless it's field stone, then I wouldn't want to touch it!

Often times, if a chimney looks sketchy, we'll have a chimney pro/mason come inspect, clean, pour a new cap, relay, tuck, or whatever...but if the chimney is in good condition, counter flashing is relatively easy.

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English Roofer

Just curious to what you get for your $250.00? as in what size does the roll come in at and what thickness?
Were paying £2.00 ($3.00)per kilo (2.2lbs) at the moment and it comes in what every with you want and 3 and 6 Mtr rolls or 10 and 20 ft
Cheers
Dave

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NormW

Just checked today at the cheepo deepo, they sell it by the foot, I thought they only sold it by the roll. I was wrong (again). Anyway $5.99/ ft for 8", and 6.99/ft for 10". Have no idea what weight or gauge it is. Feels heavy though... oh, and very bendable!

PA woodbutcher

Lead is like that

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Grumpy

Anyone considering working with lead should read some safety data first. I'm not saying not to do it, but be safe.

WarnerConstInc.

Yeah, like no eating it.

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English Roofer

When using lead alot as a subcontractor the contractor was advised to send us for blood tests every 3 months to check on the lead levels in the blood, i was the safest guy around, wore masked when stripping off old lead or when welding it, always wore gloves when handlling it,and always washed my hands be for eating, yet my blood levels came back high!!!, i dont use it as much as i did and now there back to normal so as Grumpy said becareful using the stuff!!
Cheers
Dave

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PA woodbutcher

I agree and use aluminum almost exclusively. Did a field stone chimney a few years ago that I used copper on. Have never used lead. I believe that the flashings that I use will far out last the shingle....next guy doesn't like he can change it. I replace all flashings on every roof that I do.

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Grumpy

Don't touch your skin, wash your hands after working with it. If you disturb it, don't inhale it.