Can Someone Identify These Shingles ?

tomk15

Could someone tell me what these shingles are ? They are 10 years old and organic. The homeowner wants to see if they have any type of claim. The builder is out of business. Thanks.

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RandyB1986

Size of shingle would help us out. Are they 12 x 36 with 5" exposure? Does it have a plastic strip on back.

loneframer

I think Certainteed had a line like that out. I forget what they called them, but these are the ones. We used alot of them in the late 90s.

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MJW

Those were the old Horizon shangle. Tell them they missed the boat on that claim. They are too old and Certainteed won't give much when waiting so long.

Darwin

Thems some ol' arse dimensional shingles.

Railman

I used those on my home 21 years ago. They only lasted about 15. I also missed the boat on my claim. They sure sounded like a good idea at the time, & from the street they were a good value, until they failed.
Joe

loneframer

What was the problem with them?

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WarnerConstInc.

They were pretty much a cheap 3 tab with some lipstick.

MrRoofer

Those look like IKO Renaissance, arguably the worst shingle ever made .

Hard to tell for sure if it is IKO or what others are mentioning.

Always had problems with blowoffs, cracking and premature failure (the thick parts tend to lose massive chunks of granules leaving only paper mat). Some failed in as little as 5 years. I put tons of em on personally in the ninetys early 2000's, all the look of an architectural, with all the pain of lining up the keys, or not . Because of how they got stacked in supply yards they were always lumpy so you had to be quite painstaking when nailing or they would fly away first wind...some do anyway. All the new houses got them as they were a great deal for the builders.

They still make them.

And they know they are total garbage .

Most shingle warranties aren't worth the plastic bundle wrapper, especially IKO, and after ten years proration, I don't think it matters who the manufacturer is. I know with IKO they like to come out with fine tooth and comb, so god forbid you have 1 nail 1/8" low or something goofy like that on the entire roof, they will deny the claim.

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MJW

The Certainteed lawsuit. Google it if you haven't read about it. The Horizon and New Horizon shangle are the main culprits.

silvertree

Horizen "Shangle" I think sold by Menards around here.

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Railman

Certainteed Horizon
Mine cupped, flaked, wore through, & in general simply decintegrated. They were an organic. They were all over around here, as they were used extensively by Drees homes, among others. With tar paper, or not made no difference.
Joe

Slyfox

There is still an active law suit going on, I found the information via google for a home owner just last month.
I didn't save the site on my puter tho, was on the home owners puter.

It will take longer, and you will get much less, but you can still get some monies out of Certainteed.

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MJW

Correct. Let me know what you get for them. I heard they are not paying near what they were in the past.

Outside of 10 years, you may as well forget it. That is with any warranty.

tomk15

Shingles are 13 1/4 x 39 1/4. So they are metric. Exposure is however only 5 inches. My original guess was IKO or Certainteed Horizon. Thanks for the help so far.
We actually use only Gaf shingles( 14 yrs no problems)and have found here in MA that if you spend a fair amount of money on shingles and know the rep it does help with claim.

Slyfox

I made it very clear to the home owner that he would not get a lot,
but being he's looking at a $13,250.00 re-roof,
he's more than willing to get what he can.

He was one of the fortunate, he had a good roofer that installed the roof.
It has had no wind damage or leaks since I installed it,
if it wasn't for the guys he hired to install the metal roof over his patio and causing a leak at the eave where they tied into the shingles, which is why I was on the roof last month, he would not have known about the faulty shingles.
They are splitting, curling and losing granules at a high rate,
but with i&w on all eaves and valleys and 30# felt under them nothing has leaked due to the faulty shingles yet.

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outlaw

I am not sure what brand those shingles are.

I am sure that they are not Certainteed Horizons.

Maybe IKO.

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Lab Rat

There not Certainteed, they never made metric Horizon.
They are all 12" X 36" .Plus the overlay pads are straight
Certainteeds are at a slight angle for the most part.

MEL

It's IKO, CT made only standard size 36" wide.

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Slyfox

Learn summthin new every day, didn't realize the old horizon were strictly standard.

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