Arch. Type Shingles....whats The Trick To Getting Them In Order Out Of The Bundle?

al10fred1081

I know how to step em, but when I run my racks I have the tab and mouth all jacked up. they come out and one will end with half a tab and the next one comes out with a partial mouth. wtf? anybody willing to explain how to get em in order out of the bundle? Do you have to run one row at a time and chop the next shingle off on the start of the next row to get it right?

I know I'm a carpenter and I should stay off the roof, but I've been selling a lot more decks with roof structures over part of it and some of them have arch type shingles to match the house. Three tabs I'm good, I'm new at architectural and anything above and beyond that I'm hiring a roofer.

Thanks,
Alex

Ed the Roofer

Please do yourself a very big favor and read the instructions that are written down on the bundle wrapper of all brands of shingles for their advice on layout patterns. Each manufacturer has slightly different cut off specs for starting your runs, so that the final aesthetic appearance is not distorted.

If you still have questions, please let us know which brand and style that you typically use and have the most difficulty with, so that we can give more specific advice.

Ed

Tin Cup

i don't do roofs very often anymore, but just did a total tearoff, mold, ventilation correction, new insulation, new sheathing and shingles this week. GAF/Elk 40yr Timberline, i was surprised to see the instructions weren't as detailed as they used to be.

Also, noted before i ordered, the GAF/Elk "Heather Brown" color has changed, a little lighter highlights than the old color.

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odellconstruct

you refering to cutting the first shingle at the rake? i usually cut then 6 in apart , only doing 4 courses at a time, use a speed square for straight cuts at other end cut off even with drip edge.

Ed the Roofer

I don't know about the case with GAF/Elk, but Tamko has pretty good instructions to follow.

Ed

Tin Cup

I've done alot, (hundred or so) roof inspections with a forensic engineer and a forensic architect. 1st thing they always do is grab a shingle wrapper for, can't argue with the manufacturer's instructions. so, when these shingles were delivered, first thing i did was read a wrapper. now that i think about it, the space normally used for details and photos was taken up by the most basic duplicate info in spanish. Good thing i had some mexicans on the crew.

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al10fred1081

I start the shingles in racks of 37" 29" 23" 14" then 8" and cut off shingles 1" past the drip edge. My question was how to get them to come out of the box in order. my help was supposed to be feeding me shingles and they were coming out so bad he was having to search through the pile and dig one out that matched the shingle before it.

Alex

Patrick

Please put down the shingles, and slowly climb down off the roof.

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AaronB.

I like to just give about a 6 1/2" offset on the basic archs. Some need to be installed to a more specific standard, but your run of the mill Timberline will go down really easily.

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reveivl

I don't understand the op's original ? What exactly are you trying to match up? You get one off the bundle and you nail it on the roof. That's it.

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Ed the Roofer

I think he may be concerned about some of the saw-tooth laminated parts that do not end up as full pieces on a side edge.

Ed

MJW

That's exactly what he's saying. GAF has horrible cuts at the ends of their shingles. We have even had customers ask why they are cut so funny.

Don't worry about matching them, just butt them together.

Like Ed said, read the instructions............


Or like some here, just put them on how ever you have been taught for the last 10 years and not worry about any darn instructions.

Teetorbilt

1" past the drip edge? That would really fly here. 3 or 4 blocks in a Cat 3-4 hurricane.

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Slyfox

When you lay a shingle an it ends with a small "saw tooth" and the next shingle you butt to it in the same course has a large one on the end of it thats ok,
you do not have to worry about how the "saw tooths - Demensional buildup"
comes together they will work themselves out, just make sure you run the step off pattern.

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Slyfox

I'm in the process of installing my first GAF/Elk "timberline" job of the year and i noticed the difference right off the back,
all they did was wrap original ELK's in new gaf/elk wrappers.
I like to, there are far less granule loss on elks than gaf making it easier to walk on them.

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Lab Rat

Please put down the shingles, and slowly climb down off the roof.
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I normaly just look and see what other Contractors have to say
on the different problems they run into but..........
Patrick ---LOL--- Thats the best advice I anyone has given

roofwiz74

please tell me you aren't a contractor.
why does everyone think they can roof,or in this case something as simple as shingling?
I can't believe some of the questions contractors ask on here.It's crap, makes feel bad to refer someone because they might think I'm an idiot too.
come on if you have to ask how to put on shingles you don't need to be here.can we have some posts that have some content please?

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WarnerConstInc.

UR A ****** DUDE!!!

Slow your roll, open your ears and shut your mouth for a change

Ed the Roofer

No direct personal attacks or comments are allowed against another forum member. If you take issue with someones general statement, send them a properly worded PM, but keep it off of the forum please.

Ed

MALCO.New.York

Not to be the Prick that I am........But......


Not for nuthin', as we say in New York.....Your time to look stupid will come. Mine has on many an occasion!

Follow your own advice.

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