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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
Some people build for cheap and plan to unload it on an unknowing person in a few years. Others build for the future, make room for older parents and a place to live in the future or sell for real value if they choose to. That is common in other countries. That is not in my plans, even though I love my children, but the generations and technology have changed everything.
Time just goes on and building either don't last or they are gone. I do follow a series of posts on a different forum (35,000 hits and many responses) where a person who is recently divorced and is rebuilding a 100 to 200 year old masonry home in Germany that was burned (roof system) and destroyed from the weather using contractors, DIY, volunteers and local assistance. Now after doing things right and relatively original (without pink panther insulation) the concern could be over heating in the winter. He recently discovered that the original home may have been a few hundred years older. - It was built for generations with the help of pink panther advertising fluff.
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BLDG Inspector, G.C
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
Jumbo Looks like a nice frame job. Roof looks above and be on what you need. Is that a shearwall for that little of addition? Hard to tell from picture if it's little though. Nice job. |
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Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
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in texas with framing and cornish people will do it for 3.00 a foot. What do yall think about that? Just laber Last edited by JumboJack; 11-03-2009 at 07:33 PM. |
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Twisted Cameron
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
Massachusetts is slowly moving to the national code, better than halfway there now I guess. Woot!
Seriously though, I don't drink ... and the building inspectors around here, are really decent guys. But why do I need a good stiff drink after dropping off an application, or being present during an inspection? I actually feel sorry for the inspectors, I don't think they agree/understand the codes any better than the rest of us. Im no expert on how it all works, but I suspect Simpson, and the engineered product manufactures are behind a lot of the code. On smaller jobs, where I do the drawings, I bet if I wrote in big dark letters... "Will use as much Simpson products, as I can possibly slam on" The building inspector would sigh in relief that his butt was covered. Then maybe we could both sip some kool-aid, and be friends. I could go on and on... but Im no expert... and its one more thing that frustrates me to hell. Oh! I dropped off a set of plans monday, that was for a balloon framed barn, using native lumber. Poor bastard of a building inspector, looked like a deer in the headlights. I'm being very nice and understanding... I know this is gonna take some grease... |
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Maxi-Pier Tech
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
this is still standing, last time I checked.
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BLDG Inspector, G.C
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
If theres a earth quake tell them to run into the new addition. No problem there. ![]() Why the roof overkill ? Seems like a regalar ridge tying in to the old roof and calif off of that would have be good enough. Along with maybe some bracing. Just asking. |
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Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
It sucks having to have a crane come out to set one freekin' beam.
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in texas with framing and cornish people will do it for 3.00 a foot. What do yall think about that? Just laber |
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BLDG Inspector, G.C
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
I here ya cranes are expensive. Is that the frame up for the tub ? Nice and big. They should like that. |
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Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
Yeah it was a jacuzzi tub...Whole job came out nice.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
engineers are overrated.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?![]() That is a house in Japan. http://www.asianethnicartifacts.com/architecture.htm Chinese house?^ http://teddbenson.com/index.php?/arc...rs-Cheat!.html Europeans like wood. |
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Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
No.There are no trusses in Cali...
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
Wow. Just read this entire thread.
After a really interesting and intriguing OP which rang a lot of bells with me, the rest of the thread makes me feel like I OD'd on LSD.
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Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
![]() It went through plan check,was approved and I was asked to build it.Job security I guess...
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Capra aegagrus
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?
I wasn't going to comment on that, because the pic really isn't all that clear in that respect. But yes, if there are joists to hold the walls together, you could literally use a piece of paper for a ridge beam. Or nothing at all.
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Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
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Re: Why Haven't These Buildings Toppled?Quote:
I really don't understand what they gain by using such big beams.My garage's ridge is a 1x6 with 2x4 rafters....lol
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in texas with framing and cornish people will do it for 3.00 a foot. What do yall think about that? Just laber Last edited by JumboJack; 11-03-2009 at 11:00 PM. |
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