Originally Posted by The Bill Man

I dont have time to spell check Because im busy, putting hillbillys to shame on the job sites As for you back assward red necks, from the south keep doing your sisters, and thinking the south will rise agian.(you did a great job the first time lmfao) Anyway kids keep telling people to go work for themself, like your 20 carpenter freind, and to the problem . Hey then you can bitch about them ,and the imagrents!!!! FYI if he was a "good carpenter" for 20 years, DONT you think he would have done something with it before the worst housing crisis in history...Get your heads out of your asses , just because your in denial .........It doesnt mean reality doesnt exist

Originally Posted by rick0913

I framed houses for about 20 years ,then got out of construction completely for a couple.
I picked this year of all years to decide I loved building & had to get back into it. I thought I could pick right up where I left off ( WRONG).
Long story short is I ended up taking a job with a "framer" who has been in business for a long time in this area.
I couldn't believe this guy had EVER framed a house before.
Today was my first day and we were setting roof trusses.
Small ranch but fairly complicated roof.
This guy starts off by setting a 3 ply girder,he hooks all three up w/cables & booms them up to us with his Lull , doesn't bother to nail them together just sends 'em. He then hands me up a 10lb sledge & tells me to beat the ends 'till they are flush.We finally get em flushed up & his guys start nailing them together while they are standing.
These are 3 ply , 12' tall ,42' long w/ 2x10 bottom chords.
they nail 'em off as high up as they can comfortably reach & as far out as they can reach from the walls they are standing on
As far as I can tell this is all the nailing they'll ever get.
We set trusses on both ends of the house but left out about 20' in the center. When I asked why he said he hadn't figured out how to set those yet 2 more girders set same way as first. Garage walls not built yet.
1 of the girders sits partially on garage wall so we now 6' of 2 ply sticking out there & will have to shove garage walls up under it.
At one end the house is 2 1/4" out of square in about 32'.
when I pointed this out he didn't even blink just said "don't sweat the small stuff"
O h yeah, forgot to mention , whenever they have a truss that has to be set off of the 24" layout , they start layout 24" from that truss so nothing stacks and sheathing will have to be cut all over the roof.
Help !!! Someone out there must need a competent carpenter. I can't work for this guy. How in the hell is he still building when most can't find work.