Using Header Hangers

neolitic

Have you ever seen a tree plantation?
An old growth forest?
The density is far greater in
the old growth forest.

That is why plantation lumber
is so inferior to that harvested
in a natural forest, whether virgin
or second growth.

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bwalley

I know the difference between the two, but what does that have to do with the number of tree's?

I never said we have more quality trees today than before, just more.

Why do you think we like wood that comes from south america (Rain Forest) more than plantation wood?

neolitic

Hard for me to believe that
with this reduction in area
we are able to some how
pack in more trees?
That's all.

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Tom Struble

before the turn of the century on the east coast of the U.S. many areas were deforested with the wood becoming fuel for heating and iron works and the like.

neolitic

I will buy more trees now
than in 1900, that is a
provable fact, and it shows up
in the graph.

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MarkmillerConst

Not only are the HH weaker than a trimmer, but when you install the door into a single 2x stud, just wait intill the first time the door jets slammed. This whole desire to be green has forgotten that if the end result means rebuilding, there is no savings. Also mining iron ore is a lot more environmentally unfriendly than growing a tree in a plantation.

As long as I'm ranting, the reason they make us use hangers in the first place is because too many hacks couldn't aim a nail. A little quality goes a long way.

Tom Struble

well you can take your graph and.......

neolitic

Sorry, didn't intend to
confuse anyone with facts.

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Tom Struble

no im sorry

Framer53

I don't have enough posts to cut and paste yet, I think I am 1 short.

Framer53

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/200...annot_see.html
Here is one answer to your chart.
I have read and will try to find that, the number is higher because of mass deforestration of the NE US

neolitic

As long as one can suspend
all natural law, and common sense,
okay.

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dmh

I want to pull out the trimmers and use an HH44 over an interior door. I need a 2" bigger door for a client with a wheelchair.

Has anyone done this? NAHB says I can do it... but would like to hear from someone who has.

Ground floor condo, one unit above.

thanks

Gus Dering

All I can say is;

I miss the hell out of Neo

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Whatever happened to the ol' boy? Just kinda fell off the face of the earth??

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richardframing

HUC hanger to 5.25 by 7.25 2.0 lvl post with hga10kt top and bottom of post with hd19 hold down. 4ply lvl top and bottom sills of windows with hga10kt on top and bottom, awsome. Will take some pics. Engineered framing at its greatest.

Actually concealed hangers should be used on windows 10' or bigger or tall walls. If you ask me theres just to much wood in tall walls these days. To much cold jointing for a climate like calgary. If using a lvl and regular wood studs for wall studs care should be used to order 5.25 instead of 5.5 because the regular wood will shrink and the lvl will remain the same.

richardframing

HUC hanger to 5.25 by 7.25 2.0 lvl post with hga10kt top and bottom of post with hd19 hold down. 4ply lvl top and bottom sills of windows with hga10kt on top and bottom, awsome. Will take some pics. Engineered framing at its greatest.

Actually concealed hangers should be used on windows 10' or bigger or tall walls. If you ask me theres just to much wood in tall walls these days. To much cold jointing for a climate like calgary. If using a lvl and regular wood studs for wall studs care should be used to order 5.25 instead of 5.5 because the regular wood will shrink and the lvl will remain the same.

pappagor

the average 3500 sq ft home has 12 ft of wall that is studs that are not need for any thing other then waste. hangers are very good i use them on all my headers . i like 12 ft of insulation over studs

greg24k

I never used these hangers on the window header, but I am wondering if they would require slight packing out if the opening will have a sheetrock return, because if not, IMO, each corner will be out at least 1/4" + at the top after taping is done, and if the blinds being installed on the inside, it will make the window look out of whack... maybe not so much noticeable on a smaller window opening, but if you have 6/0-3/0 window it will be noticed.

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ohiohomedoctor

Just make the sheetrockers scarf the back of the drywall.

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