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Timber Framed Shed
I helped out my best friend's dad build this small shed from 4x4's that he had collected over the years.
I had no idea what I was doing. He gave me a book that was all about making "bents" and tying them together. It was fun. |
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
NICE PROJECT, i love doing that kind of project, i like the sheathing (signs). G
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Great stuff! Timber fvraming always reminds me of building BIG furniture.
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
He built that at zero cost for lumber. He would drive home a different way every day looking for abandoned and fallen billboard signs. In Houston, they are everywhere. Then, if he could identify the owner he's make an inquiry about their plans for the busted down sign...every time they were happy to let him take that off their hands.
He had like 50 sheets of 8 ply 3/4" exterior marine grade plywood with all kinds of signage on it. It is the best plywood I have ever used. Also he salvaged about 40 @ 4x4 PT posts. |
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Nice, I love timber framing projects!
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He would scour the countryside back in the late fifties and early sixties looking for decrepit barn structures on farm properties. When he find one, he'd knock on the farmer's door and ask how much the farmer would charge him if he took the barn down and hauled off the salvaged lumber. Invariably, the farmer would tell him to have at it, he could have the barn demolition spoils for free just for making it all disappear. LOTS of fabulous timbers and siding and you name it came into my uncle's hands this way. Some of them were excellent hardwoods too. I don't know how he got rid of any nails and spikes and all that back then. Never saw a metal detector in his shop. Bye-bye jointer blades. |
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Nice job of gang cutting there, Mike.
I am doing a hybrid timberframe project now, http://picasaweb.google.com/Kirkpatr...mer/ShadyOaks# Nothing recycled here, all select structural doug fir. Been on it 2 weeks and used a gun only one day. merry Xmas John Kirkpatrick |
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
It came out real good, especially for used lumber!
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Re: Timber Framed ShedQuote:
Last edited by wallmaxx; 12-25-2008 at 08:30 PM. |
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Looking at that framing will almost make your head hurt!
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Mike,
That's all lofting and math from Joe Bartok. It's kind of weird, but learning from those ceilings has helped me with the pavilion I am doing now. I have several hips on this one and I used the proportions to match struts with the commons. There's two opposing hips and four bastard bay hips. Actually 8 bastard bay hips when the bump out is included. There are some difficult angles where the purlins meet the hips and valleys. There are two pitches for gables that will be determined by relationship between fascia, purlin height, and span. Both of the octagon ends are irregular and non proportional. But, it's fun In this economy, us framers need to be able to do it all, from chainsaws to belt sanders. Crown and coke to everyone and happy new year; check out the castle in mike's pics. |
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Your work is amazing John. Make that 2 framers I would have no problem learning from.
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
I've done some timber frame kits from Timberpeg but I really want to go to this school in northern Vermont that teaches hand timber framing. It is about a month long and you use hand tools like mallets and chisels to make a structure about like Wallmaxx's shed.
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Re: Timber Framed ShedQuote:
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
Wallmaxx, I recognise the book by Tedd Benson, I was at a timber framers guild convention some years ago at Mt. Hood, and he was one of the speakers, he's very entertaining and knowledgeable about the business of timber framing. He had a lot to do with the revival of an almost forgotten art/craft.
Framing out of such small timbers is tough, it's actually easier with bigger stuff, then you can get into the 'pure' craft, where no steel connectors are used, only mortise and tenon with pegs. That is a real joy, you spend weeks cutting notches and then one day you put an entire building up, does that ever impress the clients!! In the nit-picking detail department; are the knees held in with screws, lags, bolts? If screws, you might suggest to your buddy that he put some 1/2" lags in. Particularly if it's in a windy area. Just a thought...
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Re: Timber Framed ShedThe drywall guys must love you. .
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Re: Timber Framed Shed
That is one sweeet shed.
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Re: Timber Framed ShedQuote:
Next time I will get a little closer to how it should really be done, that's hoping there is a next time John |
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