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Old 12-25-2008, 04:42 PM   #1
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I helped out my best friend's dad build this small shed from 4x4's that he had collected over the years.

I had no idea what I was doing. He gave me a book that was all about making "bents" and tying them together. It was fun.

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NICE PROJECT, i love doing that kind of project, i like the sheathing (signs). G
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Great stuff! Timber fvraming always reminds me of building BIG furniture.
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He built that at zero cost for lumber. He would drive home a different way every day looking for abandoned and fallen billboard signs. In Houston, they are everywhere. Then, if he could identify the owner he's make an inquiry about their plans for the busted down sign...every time they were happy to let him take that off their hands.

He had like 50 sheets of 8 ply 3/4" exterior marine grade plywood with all kinds of signage on it. It is the best plywood I have ever used.

Also he salvaged about 40 @ 4x4 PT posts.
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Nice, I love timber framing projects!
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He built that at zero cost for lumber. He would drive home a different way every day looking for abandoned and fallen billboard signs. In Houston, they are everywhere. Then, if he could identify the owner he's make an inquiry about their plans for the busted down sign...every time they were happy to let him take that off their hands.

He had like 50 sheets of 8 ply 3/4" exterior marine grade plywood with all kinds of signage on it. It is the best plywood I have ever used.

Also he salvaged about 40 @ 4x4 PT posts.
My uncle was a cabinetmaker, had his shop outside of Cincinnati.
He would scour the countryside back in the late fifties and early sixties looking for decrepit barn structures on farm properties.

When he find one, he'd knock on the farmer's door and ask how much the farmer would charge him if he took the barn down and hauled off the salvaged lumber.
Invariably, the farmer would tell him to have at it, he could have the barn demolition spoils for free just for making it all disappear.
LOTS of fabulous timbers and siding and you name it came into my uncle's hands this way. Some of them were excellent hardwoods too.

I don't know how he got rid of any nails and spikes and all that back then. Never saw a metal detector in his shop. Bye-bye jointer blades.
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Nice job of gang cutting there, Mike.

I am doing a hybrid timberframe project now, http://picasaweb.google.com/Kirkpatr...mer/ShadyOaks#

Nothing recycled here, all select structural doug fir. Been on it 2 weeks and used a gun only one day.

merry Xmas

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It came out real good, especially for used lumber!
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Nice job of gang cutting there, Mike.

I am doing a hybrid timberframe project now, http://picasaweb.google.com/Kirkpatr...mer/ShadyOaks#

Nothing recycled here, all select structural doug fir. Been on it 2 weeks and used a gun only one day.

merry Xmas

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Holy Cow John!!! I was looking at some of your other stuff...this ceiling of yours is awesome!!





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Looking at that framing will almost make your head hurt!

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Mike,

That's all lofting and math from Joe Bartok.

It's kind of weird, but learning from those ceilings has helped me with the pavilion I am doing now. I have several hips on this one and I used the proportions to match struts with the commons.

There's two opposing hips and four bastard bay hips. Actually 8 bastard bay hips when the bump out is included. There are some difficult angles where the purlins meet the hips and valleys. There are two pitches for gables that will be determined by relationship between fascia, purlin height, and span. Both of the octagon ends are irregular and non proportional. But, it's fun

In this economy, us framers need to be able to do it all, from chainsaws to belt sanders.

Crown and coke to everyone and happy new year; check out the castle in mike's pics.
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Your work is amazing John. Make that 2 framers I would have no problem learning from.
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I've done some timber frame kits from Timberpeg but I really want to go to this school in northern Vermont that teaches hand timber framing. It is about a month long and you use hand tools like mallets and chisels to make a structure about like Wallmaxx's shed.
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Nice job of gang cutting there, Mike.

I am doing a hybrid timberframe project now, http://picasaweb.google.com/Kirkpatr...mer/ShadyOaks#

Nothing recycled here, all select structural doug fir. Been on it 2 weeks and used a gun only one day.

merry Xmas

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Nice looking work, John. On those trusses, why are the tenons so short? How is it all held together? Bolts?
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Wallmaxx, I recognise the book by Tedd Benson, I was at a timber framers guild convention some years ago at Mt. Hood, and he was one of the speakers, he's very entertaining and knowledgeable about the business of timber framing. He had a lot to do with the revival of an almost forgotten art/craft.

Framing out of such small timbers is tough, it's actually easier with bigger stuff, then you can get into the 'pure' craft, where no steel connectors are used, only mortise and tenon with pegs.

That is a real joy, you spend weeks cutting notches and then one day you put an entire building up, does that ever impress the clients!!

In the nit-picking detail department; are the knees held in with screws, lags, bolts? If screws, you might suggest to your buddy that he put some 1/2" lags in. Particularly if it's in a windy area. Just a thought...
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The drywall guys must love you.





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That is one sweeet shed.




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Nice looking work, John. On those trusses, why are the tenons so short? How is it all held together? Bolts?
I kept the tenons an inch and a half to make it easier with the mortising. I have some steel plates being fabricated and will be joining everything together with them and carriage bolts. Some things will have lag bolts and nails. I want to countersink the lags and then cover the heads with some dowels so they look like wood pegs.

Next time I will get a little closer to how it should really be done, that's hoping there is a next time , maybe go take one of those classes at www.heartwoodschool.com

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