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Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
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06-09-2009, 10:14 PM
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Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
How-do.... below is a pic of.... well, I guess you can call it a rafter tail.... the ends of the rafter and rafter tie are plumb with the exterior face of the wall framing. To make the rafter tail the builder gusseted in these small blocks, then nailed fascia, 3" soffit, and gutters to the blocks.
Is there a fancy word for that block in this framing method? (smallrottingblocks comes to mind) Thanks, folks. Steve |
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06-09-2009, 10:23 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
The scandinavians called that a "whaddafocisdat" tail.
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06-09-2009, 10:27 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
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06-09-2009, 10:29 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
Afterthought blocking.
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06-09-2009, 10:33 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?Quote:
Whaddaffokopp.
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06-09-2009, 10:36 PM
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06-10-2009, 06:33 AM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
Oh, duh, now I see.... the developer of this 1954 lower end area "saved" on rafters by just using 2x4s (and shorter rafters than would otherwise be needed). Since the 2x4s weren't wide enough to cut the tails, so they scabbed in the whaddofokizdats. Though I must say, Sky, "afterthought blocking" was a hoot....
Thanks for the replies, folks. Steve |
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06-10-2009, 09:33 AM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
I do similar things all the time . Looks like and end return where the soffit dead ends. It is called "whatever it takes"
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06-10-2009, 08:01 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
you asked your question after 10pm and by 6am you had the answer with no help from us.
So now did you really need to ask or just wanted to post a photo, lol |
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06-10-2009, 11:06 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
It's true that maybe I now understand what the designer/builder was doing, but I bet there was a term they used back then (1954) that everyone would instantly understand. I still don't know what that term is, and I like to know these things when I talk to others or I'm itemizing bills. But who cares? I got to play with my camera!
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06-10-2009, 11:11 PM
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06-10-2009, 11:14 PM
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06-11-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
LetItBeLEED I like the answers you got here
,the only name I know for a short upright block is a 'soldier'.Bricklayers also use the same terminology 'soldier course' when they lay a course of bricks standing on end. billy |
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06-11-2009, 09:09 AM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
It called eve blocking, which is required in some situation to provide load transfer from roof to walls... I am sure in the picture provided they have tried to accomplish something else
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06-11-2009, 07:53 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
On the site we're calling them "shavers" short for "shaver blocks" .... shave some $$ off the material cost using mere 2x4s for rafters, and bump out your fascia mostly for looks by shaving a few inches off the end of the 2x4 to use as these blocks.
Greg's idea about weight transfer made me chuckle, because the HO showed me pics of a glacier sized ice dam.... but those should all be in the past now. Thanks all Steve |
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06-11-2009, 08:09 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
So I'm not the only one who does that. Just kidding, that looks like a mess. Have fun.
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06-11-2009, 09:50 PM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
soffit block?? I dunno man. Afroengineering at it's finest
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06-11-2009, 10:53 PM
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06-12-2009, 09:53 AM
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Re: Is There A Fancy Term For This Type Of Rafter Tail?
Greg's right on the money.... eve blocking for weight transfer. True, there isn't that much weight, relatively, to the 3 inches of bumped-out roofing, soffit, gutter, and trim but its a fair bit more than zero and as originally built in winter there was a great deal more weight from ice dams.
I should have mentioned in the first post that the roof decking is 8" wide pine boards. Without the eve blocking, that first board would have been cantilevered out about half its width and would likely have failed. The eve blocks also gave them a nailing surface for the trim and to tie down the lowest edge of roof deck. Thanks for the hillarious answers (other than that most recent one). This place is great. Steve |
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