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Old 01-25-2008, 09:51 PM   #1
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Screen Door Installation.


This doesnt really fall in this catarory but I didnt know where to put it. We have not installed to many screen doors and the one that I installed for my mothers house house was hinged on the same side as the entry door. The screen door had a predrilled hole so the knob had to go there and it ended up hiting the entry door knob. Should I have set the hinge on the oppisite side of the entry door? This seems like it would be harder to get in the house. We are building a house and my customer wants two pella storm doors and I want to make sure we dont have this problem on there house. Maybe I could put some stock behind the flange to bring it out a tad..

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Old 01-25-2008, 09:56 PM   #2
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This doesnt really fall in this catarory but I didnt know where to put it. We have not installed to many screen doors and the one that I installed for my mothers house house was hinged on the same side as the entry door. The screen door had a predrilled hole so the knob had to go there and it ended up hiting the entry door knob. Should I have set the hinge on the oppisite side of the entry door? This seems like it would be harder to get in the house. We are building a house and my customer wants two pella storm doors and I want to make sure we dont have this problem on there house. Maybe I could put some stock behind the flange to bring it out a tad..

Funny you should mention that. Ive installed quite a few storm doors over the years and the only time that happened was where? My moms house of course. One of the old heavy vinyl forever doors.
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Re-install the door take the glass out and the handle off, close the door, measure the distance and figure out what your build out would need to be. If it is 1/4 then fine, 3/8 not so good and 1/2" or over forget it.

The more you build out an opening the more you have problems with:

1. The sweep not coming in contact will the sill.

2. The newer pumps (Andersen, Larson and some Pella) like to be set within 1/4" of the hinge side z-bar or they will not open 90 degrees. By building the door out your jamb bracket will not site on the jamb but rather half on the jamb and half in the middle of no support (area between jamb and exterior trim).

3. The little screws really need to spend some time in the primary exterior trim and not in the buildout. Longer screws should be used for anything over a 1/4" build out.
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Re-install the door take the glass out and the handle off, close the door, measure the distance and figure out what your build out would need to be. If it is 1/4 then fine, 3/8 not so good and 1/2" or over forget it.
The more you build out an opening the more you have problems with:
1. The sweep not coming in contact will the sill.
2. The newer pumps (Andersen, Larson and some Pella) like to be set within 1/4" of the hinge side z-bar or they will not open 90 degrees. By building the door out your jamb bracket will not site on the jamb but rather half on the jamb and half in the middle of no support (area between jamb and exterior trim).
3. The little screws really need to spend some time in the primary exterior trim and not in the buildout. Longer screws should be used for anything over a 1/4" build out.
I don't remember the last "pre-handed"storm door I saw.
They came that way in the 60's and 70's but...
Loooong time since I didn't drill for latch too.
Who still makes them like that?
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I am not a fan of screen doors. They take away from curb appeal and if you have a good door and overhang there not necissary. If you need a screen you could get that accordian type screen (affixs to the jamb). There really cool.
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Lots of people want them.
Some even use them for the screen.
They pay.
I hang.
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....that I installed for my mothers house house was hinged on the same side as the entry door. The screen door had a predrilled hole.....
What brand was it?
I'm really curious.
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I don't remember the last "pre-handed"storm door I saw.
They came that way in the 60's and 70's but...
Loooong time since I didn't drill for latch too.
Who still makes them like that?
Most of them are set up so you can mount the z-bar on either side. I can't think of a mortise lock door (holes done at the factory) that is shipped set up for only LH or RH. The crappy wood core doors with tin or vinyl require you to drill the handle holes.
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I am not a fan of screen doors. They take away from curb appeal and if you have a good door and overhang there not necissary. If you need a screen you could get that accordian type screen (affixs to the jamb). There really cool.
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A full glass/screen door will let in as much air as 3-4-5 windows (depending on size). Without a proper overhang entry doors can leak in the proper conditions.

"take away curb appeal" no, it most cases it adds to the home. Unless someone has a nice new wood or fiberglass door they can add some class to almost any home and in some cases even a mobile home.

The downsides (to agree with you a little):

1. Two doors to open and close.

2. The wind can take away an unlatched storm door and generally part of the jamb thanks to pine trim and pine fj jambs.

3. The woodcore mdf doors will rot if exposed within 5-7 years.

4. Hardware warranties are not always part of the "lifetime".
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There are still some of the 1½-1¾ doors
that use the lever and paddle latches
Chamberlin is one off top of my head.
I know there are more but...
I'm old and feeble-minded
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