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Old 10-30-2005, 02:15 PM   #1
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No Framing Saws In The UK!


Hello, I'm new to this forum and as you can guess I'm from the other side of the pond! I'm a Scottish carpenter working in Bath, England.
I frame a lot of roofs over here but we don't have framing circ saws like you have! For 7 1/2'' circ the most watts we can get is only 1400...not enough for wet timber (lumber). We don't have worm drive or high torque circ saws either...what do you use/recommend?

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Old 10-30-2005, 06:40 PM   #2
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I like the bosch worm drive or the skilsaw HD77 worm drive great saws lots of power and very durable.
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Skil wormdrive is the only saw for me but I don't think ours would work on your 220 volt..??
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If you can't get these saws in your area consider buying on line and have them shipped to you. Even if you have to spend a little more its still gonna cost less than replacing saws that keep burning out.

Last framing crew I worked on we ran nothing but Porter Cable Blade Left saws. They're not worm drive but we never had any problem with performance or power.
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The voltage is not a problem Rob, I can get the US-UK voltage converters over here that can power saws upto 3000wts. Does having the blade on the left make it easier cutting jack and cripple rafters? We don't have that option of which side the blade is on either. (It's on the right only).The EU have made it illegal to use worm drive here as well.....don't ask me why! Also the max bevel cut with our saws is only 45 degrees too!
Anyway thanks for your help,..didn't hear dewalt mentioned above should they be avoided?
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The voltage is not a problem Rob, I can get the US-UK voltage converters over here that can power saws upto 3000wts. Does having the blade on the left make it easier cutting jack and cripple rafters? We don't have that option of which side the blade is on either. (It's on the right only).The EU have made it illegal to use worm drive here as well.....don't ask me why! Also the max bevel cut with our saws is only 45 degrees too!
Anyway thanks for your help,..didn't hear dewalt mentioned above should they be avoided?


I guess since worm drives are outlawed I thought OSHA was bad. A dewalt would be a good alternative. The table goes to 50 or 55 degrees. Just don't drop one. The gears will misalign and bind and you have to crack the case and put everything back together.
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I have a dewalt worm drive saw, and used to use it when I was framing. Wheww that was a long long time ago. But other than it may be a bit heavier than most, I love it.
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The voltage is not a problem Rob, I can get the US-UK voltage converters over here that can power saws upto 3000wts. Does having the blade on the left make it easier cutting jack and cripple rafters? We don't have that option of which side the blade is on either. (It's on the right only).The EU have made it illegal to use worm drive here as well.....don't ask me why! Also the max bevel cut with our saws is only 45 degrees too!
Anyway thanks for your help,..didn't hear dewalt mentioned above should they be avoided?
I think you'd like a wormdrive if you tried one for a couple of weeks. It's a whole different feel. Arn't your cops allowed to carry guns now?? I think they should allow you to use a worm drive, although , we have our share of stupid rules.
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I think we should all chip in a few bucks and mail this fellow craftsman a bootleg worm drive saw. Illegal? Sheesh...
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I've fot an 8-1/4" deWalt circular, I've built a lot of places with it, also done a lot of timberwork with it. Got it 7/8 years ago and no probs yet. Rich.
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I think you'd like a wormdrive if you tried one for a couple of weeks. It's a whole different feel. Arn't your cops allowed to carry guns now?? I think they should allow you to use a worm drive, although , we have our share of stupid rules.
Not all our cops carry guns Rob, they still use harsh language here!

I'll have to look into why we aren't allowed to use wormdrive but what it boils down to is the EU. All they seem to do is ban one thing after the other. E.g...the blade of a circ saw should not spin for more than 6 seconds after being shut off to minimalize the risk of injury. I'm taking a guess here but do you think the guy that thought that one up is a carpenter?
But there you go...all our saws now need electric brakes!

Actually I wouldn't exchanging some of your stupid rules for mine I've got some real goodins!
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I've fot an 8-1/4" deWalt circular, I've built a lot of places with it, also done a lot of timberwork with it. Got it 7/8 years ago and no probs yet. Rich.
That's a lot of use out a framing saw Rich!
I usually 'smoke' my circ saw after 3 or 4 roofs because there not man enough for the job. Our saws in the 7 1/2''- 9'' bracket are underpowered for the job.

'Smoke'= that blue/green flame that comes from the motor!..mind you I do push them a bit hard.
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I think we should all chip in a few bucks and mail this fellow craftsman a bootleg worm drive saw. Illegal? Sheesh...
There not illegal as such they just don't use them over here, don'y know why but I'm looking into it. This worm drive sounds the business....What's your guess the forum store wont ship to the UK??
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This worm drive sounds the business....What's your guess the forum store wont ship to the UK??
Thats when you get someone else to ship it for you.
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Thats when you get someone else to ship it for you.
What do you mean pastures! Some other way of optaining this item
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say you buy from an individual, or have that person buy for you and ship it themselves. As far as currency goes ebay sellers from the US ship world wide on a regular basis, I think paypal would convert currency from pound to dollar.

I'll check and see or you can check.
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Here's a seller that ships world wide.

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Skil-7-1-4-C...QQcmdZViewItem

You need to email him first, then he can give you specifics.

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Looks like you'll be spending $300 or more US, which I think is roughly 150 UK or more. The ? would be how long does it take to go through that much in saws now?
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Looks like you'll be spending $300 or more US, which I think is roughly 150 UK or more. The ? would be how long does it take to go through that much in saws now?
All our proffesional power tools cost about double what you pay like for like. For example: Dewalt cordless nailer (DC618 KA)..the one I have, cost £386.00/ $684.00 !! (present exchange rates). My IM350 Passie fares a wee bit better but not much comming in at $620.00

Getting back to framing saws the Dewalt (DW 378 GK) is the one I'm after.Although it's not worm drive I like the sound of the high torque! Even if the shipping is going to cost me about $150 +,..I still break even.
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