Joist Hanger Nailers

MattK

Any one have a preference on a good hanger gun. Ive used the original Pasload that shot 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 nails. Looking at the new Bostitch. Looking for lightweight and compact to get into tough spots.
What guns do you use?

knucklehead

What does it look like?

loneframer

I 've used the Pasload and it worked well. As for tight spots I always defer to my palm nailers.
I never actually bought a hanger gun because of the abusive nature of hired help as well as the cost of strip nails for the hanger gun.
I like to save hangers and hardware for the times when I'm doing complicated rafter layout and such. It's nice to get the guys out of my hair for awhile.

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ChrWright

We stick to palm nailers for this as well.

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MattK

The pasload gun was about 30 lbs and looked like a stubby looking framer with a larger head. Ive used the palms but i dont like reloading in an awkward spot, also if your not straight on your second hand might be needed to hold the nail.
Main reason i liked the gun was the mag held i think 2- 23 racks, did a few houses with hundreds of 2.5s and 210s. Either choice gun or palm i still sink the toenails with spikes. Nails are expensive but considered material so not on me.

knucklehead

get you a hanger gun and get rid of that guy.
I bought one of those palm nailers Years ago, What ever happened to that thing? What are they good for anyway?

MattK

good call using hangers as busy work. paper and ferin works well too.

loneframer

He's the guy that humps all the lumber too. I can't get a lift onto many of the jobsites. He actually considers the hardware a nice break from all the lifting

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MattK

lone, what brand lift?
thinking about one in 09'. They really cut out a laborer or do they sit most of the time. Ive found some good prices on lulls under 1000 hours. JLG 42' i think 6000max

Bone Saw

I have a senco, i like it alot, compact and dual purpose. its a magazine fed palm nailer, as for shootin the sheer nails, i tie back the mag feed, and use loose 12's from my bags
http://www.senco.com/con_rem/ViewTool.aspx?toolid=556

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neolitic

Bostitch Mcn150, fits in 12"oc.

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MattK

bostitch or senco ever misfire. maintained the pasload well by 1/ every 100 would misfire because the guide pin had a little movement even pressed in the hole

loneframer

I've rented several different brands but I liked the 42' Lull alot.
My buddy's got a 36' JCB that is pretty compact and has been very reliable. He bought it with 2200 hours on it about 5 or 6 years ago. It's nice for compact areas. Think he paid around $38,000

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IHI

I started out with a hammer, moved upto palm nailer, moved upto the Paslode positive placement gun, sold that and bought a couple Bostich framer's that had convertable tips to make them positive placement and these are the biggest POS guns i've ever got screwed on, mis fires, no fires, jambing up the azz, and am still waiting on reviews on Bostich's new purpose built postive placement nail gun pictured above.

Aint no way i do that crap by hand anymore, sure the guys need busy work, but we're busy all day regardless so tieing them up doing moneky work is no happening, get that crap done and move onto the next task so we can get the helll outta dodge.

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MattK

lone,
you know ive seen lifts with alot of attachments but never a plow. I think used is definitely the way to go. Unfortunately for a lot of guys going under, theyre forced to sell off so lulls are going cheaper this year than in the past. Whats the local site to site charge? Around a few hundred

neolitic

The occasional misfire still
beats the hell out of smashing
fingers starting fing
1½" nails.

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MattK

bloody gashed nuckles is a right of passage hand nailin, lol. I dont care how accurate you are.

knucklehead

I have a Paslode positive placement for maybe 6 years and the only problems has been the "stinger" or tip on it. I think I have replaced it twice, The nails are higher than hell but it beats hand driven . I have a CAT forklift (TH63} , and I am pretty proud of it. Easy to use and teach someone else to use, and it has been pretty reliable. The bad thing is is has just been sitting for about 3 months now. It has got to get better right?

loneframer

My boy John's got all kinds of rigs for that lift, jibs, platforms, trash bin, box grader..........He had a guy with a rollback delivering 35 miles one way for $175. His machine was just below the weight limit for the flatbed. Now he's paying a transport co. $250 They are definitely a solid investment if used properly, I've seen some guys "overuse" them and become counterproductive. When I was renting, a 36' was around $2200 a month with insurance. I was working 7 days a week to make it more profitable.

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Graham J

We use the bostitch on our jobs. It's pretty new, and the nails are expensive, but it works really well, and WAY faster than a palm nailer.

I would recommend the Bostitch, based on our limited experience.

Graham