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Old 03-12-2008, 11:38 AM   #1
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How To Frame 2' Eves


Ive done plenty of additions/remodleing work but now i am building a garage for myself and would like to have 2' overhangs all the way around the roof. Question is how do you properly frame the overhangs on the gable ends? I have seen ladders built for a 1' eve but dont think doing the same for 2' would keep it from saggin' over time. thanks for any imput!
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:57 AM   #2
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Ive done plenty of additions/remodleing work but now i am building a garage for myself and would like to have 2' overhangs all the way around the roof. Question is how do you properly frame the overhangs on the gable ends? I have seen ladders built for a 1' eve but dont think doing the same for 2' would keep it from saggin' over time. thanks for any imput!
You need to use "outriggers" some call them "outlookers"..
I don't have a pictures,maybe someone has some to post.

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I skeched up a simple drawing.I can email it to you.I can't post pics..
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Ive done plenty of additions/remodleing work but now i am building a garage for myself and would like to have 2' overhangs all the way around the roof. Question is how do you properly frame the overhangs on the gable ends? I have seen ladders built for a 1' eve but dont think doing the same for 2' would keep it from saggin' over time. thanks for any imput!
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I have a couple pictures of an addition I framed with 2' 2x6 fly-rafters use 2x6 outriggers on a flat notched into the top of the rafters and then using 2x6's on edge on the outside cut at 22-1/2" behind the 2x6 fly-rafter. The ridge also extends out past the gable end and is notched so that it doesn't stick down lower than the bottom of the fly0-rafters.
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Great pictures Joe...One note.If you are using trusses make sure it is OK to notch them.
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...and when using roof trusses I've found that ordering "stepped down" gable trusses for 18"-24" overhangs saves time when framing. We order gables w/1-1/2" offsets to accomadate outriggers and the notching is history. On gable overhangs 24-30" we'll even step down the first common.
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Questions:
What are the wind conditions like where the garage is being built?
Can they (the rakes) be blown out or can the roof be lifted during extreme winds?
Are your eaves going to have a 2' overhang as well?
Why are you using 2' as your number?
To avoid using gutters?
To keep water away from the foundation more?

I'm asking because I'm Roofer by trade who's taking Framing classes now.
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order or build your end truss 3 1/2" shorter and then you build a bigger ladder that has the middle rest on the shorter truss.
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Here you can see it done sort of
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I worked it, went to College (Pre-Law), but just before leaving, did my first "side job", made lawyer money in a day and it hit me... !
I can make good money "now" and I've already put in my years of training (on the roof)!

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Garrett,

Are you stick framing or using trusses?
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Yeah i figured since i was had such a hard time discipling myself to stay in front of a computer or reading that i was not built for an office. Besides the fact that work goes by faster than i can believe sometimes i make more doing this than most of my friends from college using their degrees. And i have more fun.
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Yeah i figured since i was had such a hard time discipling myself to stay in front of a computer or reading that i was not built for an office. Besides the fact that work goes by faster than i can believe sometimes i make more doing this than most of my friends from college using their degrees. And i have more fun.
When I work a Carpentry job, I'm always the first one on the site and by the end of the day, their kicking me off. The day just flies for me.
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Nice ridge tree Joe. Not many people even know what it's for anymore, let alone do it anymore.
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I was told the tree was a Fin. tradition. The tree was put at the highest point on the building when the frame was done. I personally have seen the trees on a few timber frames.
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uhh
what is a ridge tree for?
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It's an appreciation sacrifice of a tree for the gift of the trees that were used in the construction of the building. The peoples who were responsible for this concept were also responsible for another one you are probably a little more familiar with: Christmas trees.
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Hand built - easy.

Truss...see if they will build your gable truss lower so you can run your outlooks overtop of the gable truss. Cutting into a truss...very bad mojo.

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good looking work (and wood) wall max
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The wood is all Prime Select Weyerhauser - Lindal sends out a complete package of lumber - it sure is nice working with "the good stuff"

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