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Old 03-15-2009, 04:31 PM   #1
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How Do You Guys Set Your First Truss?


I am just wondering how everyone else does this. I usually either set the first truss far enough from the gable end to get a brace to it. then after setting about 8 trusses and bracing them up I come back and remove first brace and set to the gable. I am wondering how much work it would be to put 4 trusses together on the ground, braced and lift together. I know I have seen pics of someone on here lifting the whole roof system up at once, I am not looking for that, just maybe an easier way than I normally do it. Any input??
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:34 PM   #2
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We always put the gable up with braces at an extreeme angle. Haven't lost one yet!

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do you put your braces to the outside, into the dirt? otherwise they are in the way to keep setting?
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Nope, very seldom do we do a ranch where we could,
When we set the gable it is sheathed with s&F, and a ceiling nailor fastened to the bot, before we set. Then we put up 2 tbaces nailed to the exterior into a stud. Raise the truss, nail the nailor to double plate and brace to the floor with e lineal 3x4 nailed to gether for length, nail that up as high as person can reach to the gable keeping this brace at extreem angle. The we bring up min of 2 sometimes 3 trusses up and install with braces done normally!
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On gables, I will put 2 uprights on the outside wall offset from the center about4' or so. I will always nail it good to a stud below, preferably on the side of a window opening . Nail from the inside face of the plywood through into the stud.

Once you get a few up, you can brace it off to your hearts desire. I don't like the bracing that goes through the web down to the floor. I usually end up putting the web bracing in, then put a diagonal up to the peak of the gable.
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I do like framerman. 2 or more 16' braces. 10' down 6' up.

nailed to studs.

when the gable end is up I nail it to the braces.


Usually however I build a 16' +/- section on the ground. web braces,angle braces and facia. Then have it lifted into place. then lean the rest of the pile against it.


Usually I have the crane place the sheathing on the section of built trusses. so I don't haveto lift it from the deck below.

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I just slap them up with a little caulking and call it good !!!!!
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On the trusses I am getting ready to set this week the gables are cantilevered out over brick so the 2x4 or 2x6 nailed on the wall wont work. I think I will do as framer53 said and just brace to the wall short of the next truss and set 5 then brace up. Thanks all for the good input, it is interesting how similar and/or different things are done all over the country .
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I do just about the same as framerman does. I have never really prebuilt any trusses or anything, usually just do one at a time.


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I used to fly the gable truss and 2 more on the first lift.
Keep tension on the strap while we nailed the gable to the wall. Then loosen the strap enough to slide the other 2 trusses slightly out of the way of a brace that can pass through the webbing of the two common trusses but miss the bottom cord of the 4th truss.
A quick rafter length calculation for the length and height of the brace is very helpful.
Once that is secure release the crane and brace those 2 to the gable on layout.
Once the 4th truss is up and tacked off to the first 3 there is enough to cross brace safely for the rest to fly in.

Anybody use those metal folding gizmos that capture the top cord with pinching prongs? I know I didn't describe them well but I got to use them a few times and man they were sweet.
No long 1X4 dangling out there in the way.
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I always set two strongbacks like framerman. Hey Gus, you mean these things?

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So, not like this.

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So, not like this.

Maybe, if I were geared for that. I've only done 6 truss jobs in 25 years and 2 of those were ranchers that we handed up from the gable ends Every other job was stick built.
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the metal truss spacers are awesome, nail em on and deck over the top of them.
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on gables, i will put 2 uprights on the outside wall offset from the center about4' or so. I will always nail it good to a stud below, preferably on the side of a window opening . Nail from the inside face of the plywood through into the stud.

Once you get a few up, you can brace it off to your hearts desire. I don't like the bracing that goes through the web down to the floor. I usually end up putting the web bracing in, then put a diagonal up to the peak of the gable.
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the metal truss spacers are awesome, nail em on and deck over the top of them.
What - Stabilizers? They work great

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Maybe, if I were geared for that. I've only done 6 truss jobs in 25 years and 2 of those were ranchers that we handed up from the gable ends Every other job was stick built.
Me too. On commercial...it pays to think big. The guy I was working with was a truss genius. He had that metal rack welded to his specs. It worked great and kept the guys on the ground - safe - which always made OSHA happy.

My only truss experience is with multi-family structures with HUGE clear spans...or cheap builders / or a region where the truss plants had killed all the smart framers. (now I don't mean anything bad about truss guys) It just seems that in some regions...the skillz and knowledge are evaporating.

I just did my second stick roof here in town (I guess that's around 300 total in 20 years). The inspector said he hadn't seen a roof like this in the 12 years he's been the city inspector. He was asking for my engineering stamp. I held up the IBC 2006 and showed him how everything I did was within the allowances of the code book...thus it was "engineered".
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I think that the easiest way is to set any girters that you need for the main truss system, then set a truss in the middle and brace it to the subfloor or to an interior wall and work your way toward the gable, using 25 1/2 inch blocks to stabilize as you set each truss. Then when you get to the gable, get the bottom nailed to a backer and run a rat run (2x4 on top of the bottom chord of the trusses, connected to the gable) and run a plumb brace from the peak of the gable to the rat run. Run all of your lateral bracing and then pop the brace loose from that first truss you set and start setting them the other way. If we are setting big trusses we will plumb the first one in a couple spots, then set 8, run lateral braces (16 footers...), set 8, run braces, etc. When we are doing small houses up to 2500 square, we use the gradeall to set trusses, just pick up a set and set em on the wall and have a guy on each end and one in the middle and drag em. I dont see many other people do that but it sure beats 125 an hour for a crane.
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wallmaxx, what are those yellow things that you have the trusses sitting on?
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Yup. I also set the gable first. To feel more at ease, put a strong back on that same wall, up the gable 6ft

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